Next Gen Tundra V8?

Are we 100% sure that Toyota is dismantling the V8 powertrains for the next generation Tundras? Or is this all because one individual started this rumor that has spread like a wildfire recently?

 

If I recall correctly, in his last interview with Truck Talk, Mike Sweers wouldn't say one way or the other.

 

Anyone else might know lol?

 

NA V8, twin turbo 6, hybrid.... grab that old school 8 while you can....

 

Everything I've seen so far is just rumors and panic. Nothing official has been released yet. Even if the mule trucks are running around making turbo noise, it doesn't mean the V8 is dead.

A twin-turbo V6 can be a beast of a motor. If Toyota does it right, everyone will be loving on it within a few years. There's no need to panic

 

It’s a rumor but it’s one with merit. I think Ford has proven a V6 tt works well and sells well. Toyota has never been about providing an overwhelming number of choices, or providing more than is necessary. I wouldn’t be too surprised if our only option in 2022 is a V6 tt. If we’re very lucky, the V6 tt will be standard, and the V8 will be optional.

 

Why not V8 standard, V6TT optional? Presumably it would be the more complex and expensive option.

 

I think that’s reasonable. Last time I bought an F-150, I had to really search for the truck I wanted with the 5.0 Coyote, but the 3.5 EcoBoost was everywhere. I think these manufacturers know that performance sells, and they can tweak these V6 tt’s to outperform most na V8s. In Ford’s case, it seemed that they made more V6s. So I have a feeling that the V6 might just be more available, and the V8 harder to come by for the 2022 Tundra, if they decide to produce both engines.

 

I heard they are releasing a V10

 

Leaked image of the new engine in the 2022 Tundra:

 

Its a Turbo and Super Charged V10

 

Whatever Toyota does, I hope they offer a rear diff locker in addition to the revised powertrain.

 

Well they already ditched the 8 in the Lexus LS sedan for the twin turbo 6. Have not driven it, but reportedly is quite impressive; more HP, torque and better fuel economy.

How will the reliability be long-term? Safe bet it will less maintenance than the Euro offerings, but I would expect it to be more costly than the Toyota 5.7....

 

My salesman said the V8 was gone in the next generation. Who knows though, but he has been on spot every other time.

 

In all seriousness I think it will depend on how Toyota manages their "carbon credits". I expect the V8 to go away but I wouldn't be surprised if it was packaged onto a specific trim level.

 

Can't wait until next month when we can revisit this topic again.

 

I'm hoping COVID delays the release of the 2022 so we can talk about this for two more years; by then we'll have enough data to address the "missing" tranny coolers too. Two chicks one....I mean two birds one stone.

 

That makes way more sense.

it is how ford does it and pays for the development.

Turbo v6 would likely be a premium option.

 

Toyota is nothing like Ford and never will be. Ford produces almost a million F150's a year....Toyota probably a 1/4th of the trucks Ford produces. The Toyota will be a TTV6 standard out of the Lexus and a TTV6 hybrid optional. 30mpg. STAMP IT!

 

You stole my line...

I was gonna say Straight 8 diesel electric hybrid with twin turbos and an inline flux capacitor cooler.

And some will still complain. That's one prediction that surely can't be wrong!

 

Mostly a fleet motor and those turbos leak like hell at 80k mi and plastic disintegrates when its worked total pos

 

If you google 2022 Tundra there is a article in motortrend talking about new body style and doing away with the V8.

 

I just finished reading Toyota Kata by Mike Rother.

you have no idea how true your statement is here...

 

My neighbor works at the IForce engine plant and he says the same thing.

 

Tested and ready for the U.S.?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZsQSn2kW8I

 

Would not be remotely surprised if they got rid of it. The rest of the Toyota lineup focuses on fuel efficiency. I mean the new Sienna is a 4 cyclinder hybrid ONLY. No V6 option. But i trust Toyota, they're extremely conservative with innovation as they vet their tech very thoroughly. Slow to market but what they put out is almost always better than early adopters. I'm sure a hybrid or turbo v6 powerplant in the Tundra would be great.

 

There's no replacement for displacement, trucks NEED low end torque. A big vehicle with a puny sounding V6 is just wrong, making it turbo will not solve anything in the long run, especially for those guys towing big ass campers and trailers, a stressed engine isn't good. Toyota is simply playing the BS government rules to increase their entire fleet MPG.

 

Well I for one sure hope they go turbo, you know, for the better fuel economy. It would be great to save some money at the pump./s



The reality, if it's anything like the Ecoboosts, a nice 10-15% MPG increase. So instead of 15mpg it'd be 17ish. Yay. All that money I will save, in the long run right?
Just like the Ram guys buying the Cummins, then getting 15-16mpg, despite putting that 9k extra down up front.

Turbos at this point seem like either a gimmick or an intentionally misleading sales tactic.

Prices inflate with the addition of boost, or diesel. Maintenance intervals shorten, maintenance also costs more. Then, on a truck that sees 300k+ easily, you would have to replace that turbo at least once in that interval, so tack on another 5-8k. Your "savings" quickly disappearing.

I know plenty of guys in 2500 Cummins that after a couple years are crying over maintenance costs.

I haven't yet seen a fuel economical option that truly cost less in the long run, realistically speaking that is. Sure if you bought electric and then kept it running for 20 years and the real life maintenance costs werent crazy, yeah after a decade or so you'd start seeing some pennies, especially considering most of the electric truck options are starting about 15K more than a fully optioned Tundra. That's a lot of gas.

Ram sells the Pentastar in the 1500, no one buys it for that exact reason. It gets better MPG, and yet no one buys it.

 

In their defense they held out probably as long as they could. Having such inefficient trucks has finally taken it's toll and now they are making a change.

I also hate the way a V6 sounds but as far as performance goes I think that TT Lexus motor will hold it's own especially if they tune it for truck duty. 450HP goes a long way....But yeah it's gonna sound as stupid as the current Raptor does.

 

I thought they couldn't sell them because Dodge-Chrysler engines are a