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Graphene Nano Coating

Discussion in 'Detailing' started by T-Guy69, Nov 27, 2020.

  1. Nov 27, 2020 at 12:43 PM
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    What is it? Is it better than what we are already using?
     
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    Bascially, it's a graphene infused spray ceramic coating. is it better than what you're using?....that depends on what you are already using. Mike Phillips just wrote a review of 303 products Graphene Spray Coating which I will link below. I just finished applying it to my wife's Yukon, and I can tell you, it seems to have different behaviors in different climates. Mike saw it 'sweating' (seen in his review),and I did not....perhaps due to it being warmer and more humid in Florida than here in NJ. It seemed to take longer to flash in colder temps, which I guess is normal.

    I'll be very interested to see how long it lasts versus my new favorite sealant....Wolfgang SIO2. Wipe off is fairly easy, but be prepared to go through several microfibers during the process. Gloss seems to be one of the selling points of the product, and truthfully, it's a little underwhelming. I'm willing to chalk that up to the color of the vehicle I was doing....maybe on a different color it would have popped more. Slickness is also a little lacking, but I think that's typical of most of the current coatings.

    On the up side, it has no cure time. I decided to take the slickness up a notch and applied Ethos Defy after I finished. Seems like a good product from a good company.....will update on its durability as time goes on.

    link to the review:

    https://www.autogeekonline.net/foru...5-review-303-graphene-nano-spray-coating.html
     
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    agree with briarpatch! kinda depends on what you're using. my neighbor bought and used the 303 graphene spray on his white F-150 and said he likes it so far. Time will tell on longevity. Like lots of things, capability of a product's performance goes off of preparation of the paint. if it looks bad or still has anything on it to alter a product's ability to bond to the painted surface, then performance will be affected. I saw a couple reviews on Turtle Wax Flex saying how it's one of the simplest ones to apply and works great. Still early in the game since it just came out, but did hear application process was very user friendly and easy. here is one link to pan the organizer's review of it...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5BjDzItlr8
     
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    Very interesting you brought up the new Turtle Wax offering. It's wipe off does not make you wait for it to flash like the 303 product. The jury is still out on these graphene products, but it seems like they're here to stay and will only get better. For the ease of application, if they give me 6 months of protection, they are easily worth it.
     
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    I was (and honestly still kinda am) pretty skeptical about them. Seemed to be alot of marketing and catch phrases. but they do seem to be capitalizing on it now. i'm still watching it and keeping an eye on the way graphene will work out in the future. but, they do seem to be here to stay and i feel will eventually take over ceramic coatings with some kind of graphene/ceramic coating blend that will take over and perfect the coatings to eliminate it's weak spots....like water spotting
     
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    So far, graphene coatings have not shown to be significantly (if any) better than ceramics for water spotting. As I understand it, the current graphene coatings are a ceramic/graphene blend. Below is a link to an interview with Ivan LaCroix (formerly of Optimum), talking with one of the Rag Company Guys about graphene and graphene products in general.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkEst4Z0a3g
     
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    right. the ones i've seen have also shown them to be a blend of sio2 and graphene oxide. i've seen that video and it's pretty good too. i've seen some tests (which i'm not always 100% on the way they conduct them) that have shown some to not have the same or better slickness, gloss reading, and/or water spotting resistance. i'm still about it with a little bit of skepticism. i actually just purchased 2 bottles of Avalon King's Armor Shield IX to coat my wife's van with. i apologize @T-Guy69 if we :threadjacked: this haha. hopefully this is all good info for you. but i'll say for your info.... @briarpatch has more knowledge on detailing than I do.:bowdown:
     
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    Sorry, T-Guy69.....for hijacking....but this whole graphene craze is kind of confusing and there's a lot to wade through. That being said....I just keep trying to learn as much as possible. I have a handful of very loyal customers, and I'm always looking to offer them something better, or at least something different. One company that is not on the radar yet with any type of graphene offering is Griots Garage. Their product line and reputation speak for themselves, and when they come to market with one, it will make everyone sit up and take notice.
     
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  9. Dec 10, 2020 at 1:52 PM
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    A friend of mine does detailing on the side and he just did my truck with a graphene coating, unfortunately I don't know what product he used specifically. I was pretty happy with how it turned out. He did some paint correction as well before he applied it.

    What I was curious about if you plan on doing anything special with your wife's Yukon in terms of keeping it clean over the winter months ? Obviously rinse/wash but I was wondering if you planned on doing anything else in addition to that.
     
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    I'm going to treat this coating the way I would a traditional coating. Coatings work best if they're kept clean, and to me, there's no better soap for a coated vehicle than Car Pro Reset. I hit this with some Ethos Defy after I did it, and will likely use that as my maintenance topper going forward. It will help maintain the gloss, boost the coating itself, and provide it with slickness that the 303 product was lacking in. Some coating manufacturers have their own topper products.....if that's the case with yours, stay within the brand and see how that works for you.
     
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  11. Dec 11, 2020 at 5:09 AM
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    Thank you for that info. I am happy to hear you recommend Reset, after doing a fair amount of research that is what I went with as well. Will check out the Ethos Defy.
     
  12. Dec 11, 2020 at 7:42 AM
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