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Internal Bypass Shocks for Tundra?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by AggiePhil, Mar 5, 2021.

  1. Mar 5, 2021 at 5:59 PM
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    AggiePhil

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    Does anyone make internal bypass shocks for the Tundra other than the OME BP-51s and factory Fox TRD Pro shocks? I've heard so many good things about internal bypass that I think it's worth considering. Don't like that the TRD Pro shocks aren't height adjustable though.

    ETA: I'm asking about Tundra-specific coilover sets. Within that category, OME and FOX TRD are the only two I'm aware of with internal bypass. Are there others?
     
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  2. Mar 5, 2021 at 6:33 PM
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    Fox (not TRD pro fox) and King make IBP shocks.
     
  3. Mar 5, 2021 at 6:42 PM
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    For the Tundra?
     
  4. Mar 5, 2021 at 6:49 PM
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    If you’re heart is set on IBP shocks, then you gotta pay to play. Anything can work with the right amount of money.
     
  5. Mar 5, 2021 at 6:52 PM
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    I should've clarified. I'm asking about Tundra-specific coilover sets. Within that category, OME and FOX TRD are the only two I'm aware of with internal bypass. Are there others?
     
  6. Mar 5, 2021 at 7:49 PM
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    I thought the Icon 3.0s had an internal bypass/bump stop thing going on?
     
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    Do you have a link or part number? I'm not seeing any internal bypass options for the Tundra on their site.
     
  9. Mar 5, 2021 at 9:20 PM
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    What exactly are you looking to get out of going IBP?

    That's a really expensive upgrade.
     
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    King or Fox does not make 2.5 or 3.0 Internal bypass bolt on shocks off the shelf for our trucks unless you custom ordered them. You are correct in that the only two options are OME and the TRD Pro Fox. What are the benefits you are trying to seek from having IBP shocks? On my 1st gen Raptor, they were FOX 2.5 IBP shocks, but really have a 2.0 piston due to the bypasses. This goes for all IBP shocks, the piston size is smaller than what is advertised on the shock body due to the nature. The OME are really 2.0 shocks. Once you start messing with height, you also mess with the stock bypass bump zones on the FOX TRDs for how they were tuned...and you'd be riding in the stiff bump zone. The OME can be adjusted for height and has adjustable shock settings as well to compensate. I honestly think you are better off getting a pair of King or Fox 2.5s for the money and use the savings for custom tuning/valving if you are trying to achieve a smooth ride on/off road. If those aren't enough, you could go external bypass.
     
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    Gotcha. Thanks for the information. I am just looking at all the various options and people seem to boast about the TRD Pro shocks being internal bypass. So, by extension, I was wondering what OTHER shocks offer this same feature. From what I'm gathering, it's really not that big of an advantage?
     
  12. Mar 5, 2021 at 9:40 PM
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    You can valve and tune King or Fox 2.5s to be soft on the small stuff and also progressively stiffen up on the bigger stuff to prevent bottoming outs and get adjustable height out of them.

    Maybe @AccuTune Offroad can chime in on this better explaining IBP vs 2.5s advantages/disadvantages.
     
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    IBP also have reduced oil capacity right?
     
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    Yes, think a 2.0 piston inside of a 2.5 shock body with bypass passages the oil is trying to flow pass - there's simply more stuff inside and less room for oil. Compared to a 2.5 piston and 2.5 shock body.

    I have owned or driven Raptor Fox 2.5 IBP, 6112s, ADS, and Fox 2.5. The softest were the stock height raptor 2.5 IBP, but once I messed with the height, the floaty magic carpet ride was gone. I'm sure the FOX TRD pros are the same, super plushy stock height, once you add a preload spacer for the coils, it'll mess with the bump zone and be stiffer. The 2nd softest are the Fox 2.5s in my opinion, but I get bigger oil capacity and adjustability! ADS solid 3rd for ride quality. Still need to experience a set of Kings. 6112 were very stiff and not impressive if it had to much pre-load, I didn't like them, but that's apples vs oranges due to accounting for digressive/progressive tune and budget.
     
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    Thanks for refreshing my memory. I think I asked DSM 6 or so years ago about IBP when I LT’d my 4Runner and they schooled me on it and other shock tech.
     
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    IBPs are one of those things that you really only run if you have to (can't fit an external bypass). A properly valved coilover can do a lot, and now you're paying more than a normal bypass for less performance and tunability. Be better off just adding a shock hoop and external bypass for the reasons Vang said.
     
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    Thanks for all the info, gents!
     
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    Based on your sig it looks like you know a thing or two, but I'll add on. Kibbe offers a short-course rear, this is a coilover-only rear. For maths sakes, take a $15,000 rear suspension down by a few grand. The thought being, a race-style coil and a race bypass from ADS (who I use) is something like $5400-5600 (four total pieces) plus shipping.

    I can spend a little extra on the 14" Coilsovers, have them built IBP (similar to what Kibbe does), and save about 3100 to 3300 by not ordering 16" triple Bypasses.

    One is "better" but the less expensive route still meets my needs.
     

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