1. Welcome to Tundras.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tundra discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other Tundra owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

P0453 HELP! Obscure Repair NOT canister assembly or ECU

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by pgstewart316, Dec 1, 2022.

  1. Dec 1, 2022 at 3:54 PM
    #1
    pgstewart316

    pgstewart316 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2022
    Member:
    #87674
    Messages:
    2
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Patrick
    Vehicle:
    2006 Tundra 4.7L SR5
    none
    I have a 2006 Tundra 4.7 SR5. I'm an ASE certified technician and have been in the field for years. Fuel and emissions diagnostic is something I excel in. This is the first time in 10 years I am ever asking a question on forum because I am genuinely stumped.
    Problem: P0453 Evap Emissions System Pressure Sensor/Switch High. The code is permanent. No amount of clearing or reset will erase CEL. Multiple diagnoses and repairs don't work.
    1. There isn't a pressure switch on the 2006, heck I'd test a known good if they sold one.
    2. Pressure on this one is run through the Vapor Vent Valve attached to the Fuel Vapor Storage Canister Assembly.
    3. Smoke Test showed leak at vent valve and bad gas cap. Changed out entire Storage Canister with Vent Valve assembly (aftermarket) with toyota gas cap. Passed smoke test after repairs. No leaks. Code still on. Will not clear.
    4. Replaced with genuine toyota part. Code still on will not clear.
    5. Tested voltage at connector located under driver seat. 5v. Pass.
    6. Tested fuel pressure at rail, perfect.
    7. Per Toyota's testing procedures, last step is ECU. Before replacing ECU I had independently diagnosed by both a local repair facility and by Toyota themselves. Paid for both diagnostics (even though I had already diagnosed myself) and both independently came up with replacing the ECU as the only solution. Replaced with ECU and relearn successful but code/fault was on as soon as vehicle started. Still will not clear. Toyota has no clue, suggested this forum. Identifix has nothing. Every master I know over the past 10 years has no clue. I am at a loss and can't sell this truck until I fix it.

    At this point I have replaced everything that can be replaced. Please help. Has anyone encountered tis issue.
     
  2. Dec 1, 2022 at 4:01 PM
    #2
    FrenchToasty

    FrenchToasty The Desert rat, SSEM #5/25, 6 lug enthusiast

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2019
    Member:
    #36156
    Messages:
    18,319
    First Name:
    Mo
    The SoAz….. big surprise
    Vehicle:
    2006 DC 4.88s Elocker and some other trippy stuff
    Bone stock
  3. Dec 1, 2022 at 5:07 PM
    #3
    Lextech

    Lextech New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2020
    Member:
    #49791
    Messages:
    18
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    05 Double Cab
    Have you tested voltage and resistance at the plug at the charcoal canister? Couldn't figure out how to load the file but here's a long screen shot of the repair procedure directly from tis. Probably will have to click on it a zoom.

    Screenshot_20221201-195824_Chrome.jpg
     
    Tundra2 likes this.
  4. Dec 1, 2022 at 6:03 PM
    #4
    Tundra2

    Tundra2 Zoinked

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Member:
    #25875
    Messages:
    12,412
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Noah
    Western Kentucky
    Vehicle:
    '00 Tundra V8 SR5 '03 Corolla Virus
    I'm no help to anybody here in this thread. But heres your screenshot all blown up, and zoomed in.
    upload_2022-12-1_20-3-24.jpg
     
    FrenchToasty likes this.
  5. Dec 1, 2022 at 6:05 PM
    #5
    Lextech

    Lextech New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2020
    Member:
    #49791
    Messages:
    18
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    05 Double Cab
    Definitely did not translate very well. Sorry.
     
  6. Dec 1, 2022 at 6:19 PM
    #6
    Lextech

    Lextech New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2020
    Member:
    #49791
    Messages:
    18
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    05 Double Cab
  7. Dec 1, 2022 at 7:41 PM
    #7
    empty_lord

    empty_lord They see me rollin'

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2019
    Member:
    #25441
    Messages:
    10,124
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dan
    Indiana, Chicagoland
    Vehicle:
    05 rollover special
    custom body work, Billies with taco ARB springs, Icon AAL, TRD FJ trail team wheels, 2019 Toyota 86 radio, Blacked out interior, Added factory power everything, heater mirrors, ETC
    What’s with tundras and weird electoral issues this week? I’ve got one. Stumping me at work.

    Short of checking literally pin on the ecm related to the evap system, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s ecu. I have had 2 trucks (not this vintage, but similar) with burn marks on the board that ended up being tied to the evap pump. It’s not hard to pop the ecm out and take the screws out to check the board. Might be the quick check before delving into diagrams
     
    Tundra2 likes this.
  8. Dec 1, 2022 at 7:58 PM
    #8
    Tundra2

    Tundra2 Zoinked

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Member:
    #25875
    Messages:
    12,412
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Noah
    Western Kentucky
    Vehicle:
    '00 Tundra V8 SR5 '03 Corolla Virus
    @pgstewart316 Where is the pressure switch located. I know you say that you can't get a switch independently, but can you pull the the whole "module" that the switch is in, if there is one... from a junkyard truck?

    You were clear in your post, but I'm tired. Let me clarify something here, you replaced the storage canister with vent valve assembly with aftermarket first, and then replaced that same part with Toyota OEM later?
     
    FrenchToasty likes this.
  9. Dec 2, 2022 at 7:31 AM
    #9
    pgstewart316

    pgstewart316 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2022
    Member:
    #87674
    Messages:
    2
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Patrick
    Vehicle:
    2006 Tundra 4.7L SR5
    none
    @Lextech @Tundra2 Yes, have tested resistance at plug at canister as well as voltage. Voltage is about 4.9-5.0 volts. Resistance is less than 100 ohms. about 92. The procedure you screenshot has been performed by me, a tech at an indy shop and a tech at toyota. All three of us came to same conclusion regarding ECU. @Tundra2 to clarify, yes the storage canister with vent valve assembly has been replaced with toyota OEM.

    This fault is permanent, can't be cleared, permanently stored. Once new ECU was installed yesterday the code was immediately on as soon as the truck was turned back on. Toyota basically told me good luck. At this point there is literally nothing left to throw at it.
     
  10. Dec 2, 2022 at 10:24 AM
    #10
    assassin10000

    assassin10000 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2020
    Member:
    #54157
    Messages:
    2,197
    First Name:
    Andrew
    Northern CA
    Vehicle:
    '05 SR5 AC
    Remote start alarm Removed keyless entry piezo Qi phone charger & dash mount Subaru underseat subwoofer Hopkins Easylift Steering wheel audio controls No-tenna mod 3/4 adhesive anti-rattle shim D/S door
    Have you tried your ECU in a different truck to see if the code will clear?

    Could be a wiring issue in the harness you're not picking up with the voltage/resistance test (ie: it doesn't happen until running/driving).
     
    FrenchToasty likes this.
  11. Dec 2, 2022 at 11:27 AM
    #11
    Tundra2

    Tundra2 Zoinked

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Member:
    #25875
    Messages:
    12,412
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Noah
    Western Kentucky
    Vehicle:
    '00 Tundra V8 SR5 '03 Corolla Virus
    Is it possible that the sensor is correct and the pressure really is high?

    Is there a way you can "plug into" the system with a manual gauge to determine actual pressure?
     
    Lextech and shifty` like this.

Products Discussed in

To Top