Interesting informed take on the Tundra Recall

Now I know you are trolling and not for real, LOL

I did not say the engine was made in Japan. I said Japanese made vehicles (i.e. GTRs - STIs- LFAs- etc etc.) are better quality than their USA counterparts. I did say that Toyota sources blocks from in house and various vendors. I would not doubt that Toyota makes blocks for the Hybrids in house as they have a higher quality standard than the normal non hybrid motors.

You do you though,

 

But you made it sound like hybrids are getting better "Japanese" treatment. You brought it up, not me.

And this brought you to the wrong conclusion that only non-hybrid are affected by the issue which is untrue. Like I said if living facts free make you feel better... cool, cool.

 

The fact is I have a Hybrid, do you? another fact is that I have 18k trouble free miles on my Hybrid? How about you? Also another Fact is that the Hybrid is NOT included yet in the RECALL.

Just can't handle all those facts then recheck them. It may eventually include the Hybrid but a FACT is that as of TODAY the HYBRID is NOT affected in the recall. No matter how you twist it or try as you might to make it true it is fake news and misinformation.

According to you it does affect the Hybrid so for those who have the hybrid and have failures attributed to this then Toyota should fix their trucks free of charge.

 

Man, you're just purely delusional. Making stuff up as you go.
I am not twisting anything. My Tundra is not included in the recall as of today. You are claiming hybrids are debris free and therefore engine issue free because "it was a QC issue on one line which made the blocks for the gasoline only 3.4 liter motor"
When the fact from original statement is they are not included in the recall because "If engine failure occurs on a hybrid vehicle, the vehicle continues to have some motive power for limited distances and the driver receives a continuous audible warning, warning lamps, and visual warning messages."

And here's another interesting "fact" of yours. Do you mind sharing that post where I said that?

 

They already have. No more Toyotas in my driveway…

 

I really think everyone is being a little hasty/ harsh / judgement and overall pre determining the outcome of their trucks ahead of actual problems within their own truck. I have now almost 20k trouble free miles on mine and I tow weekly with it ( I don’t drive like a p**sy either lol.

I enjoy the domestic comments like they haven’t had a million recalls of similar or much worth caliber but due to it being “American” it’s fine and dandy because you expect a piece of s**t which is laughable because quite frankly 70k is 70k. What about fords 550k re all on transmissions going into first gear and locking up killing people? That just got released and most people are like oh well it’s a ford, bound to happen but due to Toyotas reliability we are all freaking out like they are big piles of shit now which I completely disagree being where a work. ( I work get very lofty discounts if I chose to drive a dodge but……).

All in all let’s hope Toyota does the right thing and continue to drive your truck without anxiety until there really is a problem.

 

Unfortunately Ryanwgregg has been deleted and all his posts too. He managed a Google Form listing many Gen III bearing failures. There were Hybrids on that list. Plain and simple. The Hybrids fail too. They weren't recalled because the electric motor enabled the driver to move the vehicle out of traffic if the ICE failed.

My guess is there were a few Toyota lawyers arguing to keep the Hybrid off the recall list.

 

Or maybe there aren't enough hybrid failures to warrant a recall? We may never know the actual reasons why Toyota didn't include the hybrid. I am wondering what og did to get banned? Talk crap about the f150?

 

We actually have a very good idea why. Lol

 

@TRDoffroadPRO Do you have links to Toyota blaming these bearing failures on a supplier? How about the third party manufacturer of non hybrid engine blocks?

 

There are no links, just beliefs

 

Both blocks hybrid and non-hybrid are cast at Bodine Aluminum, which is a Toyota in house facility

 

I have a gas only block!

I am pretty sure my block came from Jim’s Pizza and Engine blocks LLC.

It has a pesto smell when I start it in the mornings!

Sorry for posting stupid! I just had a long day and sat down to catch up on the Toyota saga and read all this banter.

Great fun…

Keep up the great discussion.

 

I got rid of the trailer so I have no use for my truck. I ended up putting a deposit on a sprinter 2500 highroof awd (w/ the Tundra as my trade-in vehicle). Another twin turbo, plus the complexities of a diesel engine.

We still have our 2023 4Runner ORP though. This is our second 4R after I sold our 2016 4R TE. The 4R is slow but something about it just makes me want to drive it. Maybe it's because it reminds me how good Toyota's build quality can be.

 

And here you are.

 

Yep. Bought the Tundra for my daughter. She didn’t like it (drove it for a year), so I got it sorta unwillingly (still owed me money), and now plan to sell it.

 

please substantiate these 2 claims

 

So do you have or have had an engine failure?

 

I have not had my engine fail. Actually it has been a great running engine.

I do have the Toyota app on my phone and it has 3 recalls listed for my truck at the moment, one of them being the engine recall, the others are: leaking fuel line risk of fire; and driving forward while in neutral recalls.

Our truck was built around August 2022 so it falls into the date range as shown in the recall documents.

As far as mileage, we have 7,512 kms at the moment (or 4,695 miles).

The truck is parked and will not be used until the recall is removed. We stopped using it due to the risks as noted in the recall documents.

 

Yep, mine is a February of 2023 build date. I have had the temp fuel fire fix done and the transmission reprograming done. The only open recall I currently have is the permanent fuel line fix which will replace the whole fuel line with an updated part. Do not know why it is so difficult for Toyota to roll this out to dealers? I sit at 18k+ plus miles at the moment and truck has been great so far. It has been posted on Lexus forums that it was a block issue and that it was only one production line, but I think that has been debunked.

Toyota definitely hasn't kept up like they should have with production issues. Of course like has been stated previously I think that Toyota considers the Tundra a US domestic market vehicle, and isn't as concerned about it as they have the others. This is a same for I remember Toyota as the quality Japan auto maker who would always stand behind their products. Toyota is huge in Texas and the plants there employee ton of people, I imagine that Toyota will have this sorted before too long.

 

Our last Toyota was a 73 Celica that I rebuilt from the ground up in the early 90's otherwise none, but lots of Honda's, VW's and BMW's.

We jumped on the "reliability" band wagon to get a bit more towing capacity than our 2019 Ridgeline had.

So far our return to Toyota has been one of the worst experiences we have had in a long time. It seems to me that the corporation is broken!

 

You apparently liked it and had plans for it. Why else would you start a build thread on it? I still don't get why you are trash talking an older truck that you bought with a bunch of miles on it with little knowledge of how well it was maintained. Your issues are not representative of build quality.

 

Info is all over…

Nor being a smart shopper, didn’t want you to forget that. If you cannot do your due diligence and research what you are buying then you can only talk trash about the thought process

 

I did have plans on keeping it, but after another 4 week kuckle busting, curse laden tirade to fix a bunch of stuff including a rusted out crossmember, I’m done with their pi$$ poor design engineering. I did my homework, and no one knows what I know, so you can speculate all you want. Being the PO was a GMC mechanic, I believed he maintained it. He told us the only things that needed attention were a RR caliper, and exhaust. The NAV screen was also NS, so we knew all that going in. I did have it “inspected” at the local Toyota dealer as well, but that was about as useful as taking it to billybobbananaboatfactory. The clowns there quoted $8K to replace the exhaust.
I’ll leave it at that, as this is already well beyond what this thread is about. If you want to debate me, go to my build thread.

 

Got my truck back last Friday after 48 days in the shop. I got a list of parts the dealership ordered and i have the new part number for the short block assembly mentioned in the car care guys video. Truck seems to drive okay but im just paranoid it's gonna shit on my next long trip. I issued a buyback request at the 30 day mark but haven't heard back yet.

 

Then why are LX600s included in the very same recall? They're made in Japan and they're hybrids. Womp womp womp

 

It is made in Japan, but not a hybrid. Still shows that it wasn't some rogue engine builder like some are claiming. I think Toyota's procedures are so strict that if it was a manufacturing issue, it was happening the same way in both plants. I do think hybrids are affected. I also think whatever changes they made last year did mostly fix the problem.

 

When were those changes made? Of interesting note I changed my oil at 1000 miles and then again at 3000? Is that enough to clear the debris if there was any from the engine?

I'm not sure but I haven't had any issues with it since and it seems solid.

And here is the latest update from the source I use which appears up to date.

https://lexusenthusiast.com/forums/threads/3-4l-ttv6-engine-failures-v35a-fts.7468/

 

Toyota reported having implemented improved cleaning procedures around Feb '23 in the original recall documents, hence the Feb '23 cutoff for the recall.

The frequent oil changes won't fully alleviate the issue, if the issue is debris getting embedded into the main bearings.

 

Hmm my truck was a late Feb 23 build, wonder if it was produced after the improved process.