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Blown 6112 - Next Steps

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by SharkDog, Nov 19, 2024 at 11:55 AM.

  1. Nov 19, 2024 at 11:55 AM
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    SharkDog

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    I've had 6112's on the front of my 2006 doublecab for 4.5 years and about 40k miles. Both are blown. One is blown and the other is squeaking like crazy. The suspension is otherwise stock but newer. It got new ball joints and control arms about 15k miles ago.
    The truck is a shop at the moment, because I couldn't locate the squeak. I am not positive how torn apart it is.
    So, I'm trying to decide what to do next.

    Option 1: Have the shop put it back together, pay them for the diagnostics, and buy something better/different and put it on myself.
    I am not sure what would replace them. Kings? Toytec is local. Who's got a black friday sale?
    Option 2: Have them put something cheap on there. Ship the shocks back to Bilstein to be re-built under warranty. I believe they could be warrantied. Another post said that Bilstein will rebuild them and ship them back.
    Option 3: Have the shop put something decent on and move on with my life. I am not sure what they can get locally and quickly.

    I haven't been blown away with the ride of the 6112's. The 6112's seemed too stiff both on-road on things like expansion joints and off-road on washboard and stuff. They felt great on bigger hits. They had whatever spring they ship. I think its a 650 lb spring. The truck has a hitch up-front, but no armor or real heavy stuff.

    I'd like some unicorn, affordable, just right goldilocks shit. I am drawn to King's because they are reportedly progressive, but they seem pricey for a truck that sees a high percentage of pavement and commuting. With that said, I-70 and many of the Denver metro roads suck.

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. Nov 19, 2024 at 11:59 AM
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    shifty`

    shifty` I'm so tired sheep are counting me

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    Toytec always has Black Friday deals, usually 10%-20% off. You may want to call and ask. They also install on-site. Other DC drivers have reported they like the ride on the DC. On my AC with 700# springs they come with it feels a bit stiff to me.
     
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  3. Nov 19, 2024 at 12:12 PM
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    AZBoatHauler

    AZBoatHauler SSEM#140 / 2.5 gen plebe

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    For me - I’d need Kings rebuilt every year or two with the mileage I accumulate - I don’t like installing and removing coil overs enough for that to be a thing.

    I’d second the ToyTec option since they are local - I just wouldn’t expect the ride to be significantly better than the 6112.
     
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  4. Nov 19, 2024 at 12:19 PM
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    Option 2.5 if they have it torn apart already. I’d have the shop put something decent on and still send in the 6112 for warranty. If you don’t decide to put them back on you could sell to offset costs.
     
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  5. Nov 19, 2024 at 12:30 PM
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    I don't drive all that much. Internet says 30k to 50k rebuilds, which would be 3-5 years for me. It would probably annoy me, too, though. I am sure irritated about the 6112's.
     
  6. Nov 19, 2024 at 12:43 PM
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    You had the Boss 2.0's on there, right? Website says that those need an aftermarket UCA. It looks like the Ultimate doesn't need an UCA.

    Edit: also, the Ultimate is just a bilstein 5100 with a fancy adjustable sleeve, so that given my feelings on Bilstein at the moment, that isn't happening.
     
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  7. Nov 19, 2024 at 12:53 PM
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    Any performance shock will need to be rebuilt at some point. The good thing is you can rebuild them...and it is rather easy to do.

    Check out Colton @memario1214 with hot shot off-road. That guy usually has good deals all year long.

    You can also check out Ben with Filthy Offroad in Denver. This is where I get my shocks from, but we have a long standing relationship.

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    If you ever need help rebuilding them, I'm just south of you.
     
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  8. Nov 19, 2024 at 2:51 PM
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    Kitchen rebuild - do you clean them in the dishwasher too? There’s a guy on the Porsche forum who put his engine case halves in the dishwasher. Claims it’s an awesome parts washer provided you can stand the spousal heat.
     
  9. Nov 19, 2024 at 2:58 PM
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    Rebuild them. Unless you really don't like them. I have a DC and I dig mine quite a bit so far (it is not my daily commuter though).

    One thing I don't love about these is utilizing the circlips to compress the spring for lift - these aren't progressive springs either. I think I may actually try a small puck spacer and dropping the circlip back down to like 1/3 instead of the 5/7 or whatever they were for my DC upon receipt from Wheelers. I like the idea of the truck being lifted with a taller spring a lot more.

    Worth mentioning or noting, since I think it's equally important, is to consider your load range on your tires. Wheel/tire specs matter a lot - especially in your scenario. I run a load range E but for a lot of folks just cruising pavement/not offroad the factory rated C may be a little "easier" for you on those expansion joints/ cruising conditions.

    That being said, I used to live outside of Denver and visited Toytec about 15 years ago - super great group of guys.
     
  10. Nov 19, 2024 at 3:03 PM
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    FrenchToasty

    FrenchToasty The Desert rat, 6 lug enthusiast

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    Are 6112s actually rebuildable?
     
  11. Nov 20, 2024 at 5:29 AM
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    I don't think so, only higher end stuff actually is. By rebuild, I mean send em back to Bilstein cause they supposedly warranty them fo' life to original purchaser. I'm guessing if they just send out new ones.
     
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    TTLKTUN06-P - Toytec Boss 2.0 Front Aluma Series Coilovers (00-06 Tundra / 00-07 Sequoia) 2"-3" Lift

    That's what my receipt shows. Screencap below of my order.

    I am running aftermarket LCA (SCP, but the Eibach-boxed version for 30% less $$$, I got them for a little over $500). I bought during BF in 2022, 15% off. Got the diff drop under logic, "what the hell, alredy spending $1k, what's $35 more?" but in hindsight, waste of money. And honestly, I hope the 6112s I have ride better than the Elka/Toytec, I dunno if it's just the 700lb spring or what, but ride is pretty damn stiff IMHO. Hindsight 20/20, I'd have gone with a 650lb spring if I did it all over again.

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  13. Nov 20, 2024 at 7:32 AM
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    I would call KYB. I really like mine for 90/10 road/play truck duties. 75k on them squeak free and ride great. A hair soft, but they are 22-23 years old. If it came w kyb, id go that way. I dont baby mine by any means and im very happy with them.
     
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  14. Nov 20, 2024 at 9:09 AM
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    A quick update. The shop had it all buttoned back up by the time we were talking, so I didn't feel any real rush to make a decision yesterday. It seemed extra squeaky on the way to work, of course.

    This morning I am leaning towards getting a pair of 5100 and sticking them in while I deal with the warranty.

    I read another post that was complaining about the turn around time because Bilstein rebuilt yours and sent them back. Instead of providing another set quickly or in prior to receiving your pair. I don't have a clue.

    Right on. Thanks for the info! Have you sold yours yet?
     
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    shifty` I'm so tired sheep are counting me

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    Nah, and currently @bmf4069 has 1st dibs once they come out and I assess how I'm feeling about the ride.
     
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    Honestly, hot water bathing anything metal is a great parts cleaner. I keep a 1gal slow cooker around for exactly that reason. Add some degreaser if working indoors, else any less-flammable solvent if working outdoors, and run it for 24 hours on low, or medium if high soil. That part is coming out sparkling clean.
     
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    He'll get 'em washed up right away.
     
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    The dishwasher eh? Nice!
    A red oval instead of blue?
     
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    Yeah, one of the POs decisions, amongst other......classy color choices in the interior. The pedals and shift knob were yellow.
     
  21. Nov 20, 2024 at 5:44 PM
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    Just wanted to chime in. I have 6112s on the front of my double cab w/700lb springs and front bumper/winch etc.
    My 6112s didn't feel so hot until I had my sway bar off, then they felt soft and controlled. I drive like an idiot and enjoy going way too fast over speedbumps though :anonymous:
     
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  22. Nov 20, 2024 at 5:48 PM
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    I’ve still got a sway bar, but it doesn’t have any links. They felt pretty good going over a speed bump too fast. They feel too firm going over pebble. Remember Princess and the Peas?
     
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    Ah, don't tell me they were the auto zone clip ons?
    I guess I can't say much though, my shift knob is a wolf in a top hat with his tongue hangin out. :rofl:
     
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    You guessed it.
     

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