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2022 Tow hitch Receiver ratings?

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by Flagerr, Mar 11, 2022.

  1. Mar 11, 2022 at 10:55 AM
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    Anyone know 2022 tow hitch receiver rating info?

    Cant find any stickers on it, the only official info I can find is that it is a class IV on my spec sheet.

    Toyota Brand advocate online "guesses" 10k and the dealer salesmen and service reps "guess" 10k and can't give me a straight answer.

    My Truck is listed with tow capacity of 11120 per my manual, SO how can a hitch receiver that is only rated at 10k come with a truck that is rated at 11120 capacity?

    Im not pulling more then that but thats not the point....what if I wanted to? My truck is advertised to do so but how if the receiver I have can't even do that....

    Ive done the math on my payload and that will be ok but my tongue weight is between 1000-1200, so if its rated at 10k my tongue weight is too heavy for it if the rating of 9-10% which is what they "guessed" also for tongue ratings......... Toyota doesnt even make a class V receiver because they never had a vehicle that pulled this much. And I can't get an aftermarket receiver without losing my warranty (my truck might have wastegate, so I can't lose that).

    Class IV google search on different manufacturers have ratings from 8k-14k with tongue weight ratings from 800-1400 and distributed tongue ratings that widely vary too. But at least they are specific and actually document the ratings on their websites and on stickers on the receiver.

    Any one have any insight on this?

    Thanks!
     
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    Putting an aftermarket hitch on will not change your warranty
     
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    Thats what I thought!!,... It just an "accessory", but when I mentioned it on the phone as an option when I was trying to get them to answer my questions they warned me not to because they said it would and they spooked me.
     
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    They can deny warranty work if they can prove your accessory caused the failure
     
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    I’m sure the receiver on your truck is rated for the advertised trailer weight otherwise they wouldn’t publish those numbers...

    Class IV is up to 10,000 lbs and 10% tongue weight without weight distribution hitch and up to 12,000 lbs and 10% tongue weight with weight distribution hitch.

    Just make sure the hitch and ball are rated for the weight you want to pull. Also, you probably should use a weight distribution hitch above 8000 lbs trailer weight.
     
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    Like he said above but I beleive above 5k the WDH/sway is recco’d..

    Most of the panic comes dudes that don’t even have the truck and do little research. Relax and enjoy your truck.
     
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    Thats what any reasonable person would assume right!?

    But as to why it isn't documented anywhere and no one knows the answers at Toyota or can't give a straight answer are ridiculous. Every other manufacturer of hitch receivers specifies ratings, why doesnt Toyota? Their guesses don't even allude to those reasonable assumptions. They seem to be more keen on focusing on the generalized rating of 10k of a class IV and that my 1100-1200 lb tongue weight is too high for the "recommended" When they can't give me a specifics on what the "recommended" is ...lol

    Im Def planning on getting a "Weight Safe" Distribution hitch but was trying to get more clarification on the hitch receiver ratings before doing so in case I did need to get an aftermarket hitch receiver.
     
  8. Mar 11, 2022 at 12:14 PM
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    Looking at a '22 SR5 4x4 Crewmax on a local dealer website and I see this listed under "tech specs";

    20220311_141111.jpg
     
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    Thank you.

    That at least Shows that someone out there is listing specs, even though they are completely different numbers from what my dealer and completely different from what brand management has told me.

    This at least gives me a point of contention in my conversation/argument moving forward.

    Has anyone else seen these or other numbers listed anywhere?
     
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    Google sterling mccall toyota fort bend. That's the dealer site I was looking at. I think they have that section on all the new trucks shown on the site. You just have to click into a specific truck to get there. It's under Vehicle Details - Tech Specs. Adding thus info in case you want to compare different configurations.
     
  11. Mar 12, 2022 at 1:17 AM
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    I too

    I took a look and its weird how oddly specific each truck is depending on exact trim. max towing 11,230, 11,260 max tongue 1123, 1160. etc.

    There is no way each truck has a different hitch receiver that is 10-50 lbs different in rating and leads me to think its gotta be 12000, 1200 when distributed. But with no official documentation in manuals or on toyota website, and dealers and reps all saying different things how are we supposed to know. Thats why there is a door sticker for payload so if im over 50-100lbs at least I know it... I don't know if I tow with a 1200 tongue weight if my hitch is gonna snap off my truck bc there are no official ratings on the hitch they give us.

    Cant even find aftermarket receiver for this yet either anyway.
     
  12. Mar 12, 2022 at 1:38 AM
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    You can use 1200lbs tongue weight on a 12klbs trailer if your payload has enough after you and your accessories are in the vehicle. Most trims won't support that though. You can move the spare tire to the trailer and put all your belongings in the trailer to achieve that. This is the "legal" weight rating, but we all know you can get away with slightly more payload without any damage to the Tundra.

    A lot of states require a weight distribution hitch when towing over 5klbs and honestly, why not do it anyways? It makes towing much easier if you happen to go above 55mph or experience cross-winds.

    If you have any question about your specific vehicle, why not drive on a scale and measure exactly each axle's weight distribution? Most truck stop stations have them.
     
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    What do you mean you can’t find a receiver anywhere?
     
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    That is odd. Only thing I can think of (I haven't gone back to look at their actual numbers) is they're working backwards from max total vehicle weight (truck + trailer)? Basically, taking that max number less the weight of the truck. That would explain, maybe, the different weight per trim. Thinking about it more, it then looks like they're simply applying a standard 10% of max trailer weight as the max tongue weight, irregardless of max payload for the truck or actual capability of the hitch mount.

    I guess those numbers aren't quite as helpful as I originally thought.
     
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    You can’t replace the receiver… it’s part of the frame… why are you worried about the receiver hitch rating?
     
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    yes as mentioned previously im planning on getting a "weight safe" WDH and my payload is not an issue I've already planned on removing things like the spare, bed cover, half tank of gas etc that will put me within payload capacity when towing. Those numbers aren't the question, this is about the hitch receiver rating. The actual ratings of the hitch receiver on the back of the truck itself.
     
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    its helpful if only to point out that the specific number aren't listed anywhere
     
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    You (I) can't? is that the same for previous gens? all previous tundra come with a hitch receiver and there are tons of aftermarket receivers for that one (Curt, Reese, Etc) so they must be replaceable. I honestly haven't looked tot far into it because im still trying to get details on the one that came with the truck.

    Im worried about it because I have a higher then average tongue weight on my trailer and it is not listed anywhere what the ratings are.... We are supposed to be diligent about payload which has a sticker and overall towing capacity which is in the manual.... why not the hitch receiver rating? Every aftermarket Manufacturer of hitch receivers rate them with max GTW, max Tongue Weight, along with Max with a WDH, and max tongue weight with a WDH... Why not an OEM hitch receiver.

    and then it just made me worry even more when I talked to the dealer and Brand management at Toyota online and they are telling me the max of the hitch receiver is 10k with Zero details on tongue weight,... which is lower then the trucks advertised max capacity towing is rated to begin with.
     
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    Class 4 boasts a gross trailer weight capacity of up to 10,000 lbs. and a tongue weight capacity at 1,000 lbs. Also, like class 3 hitches, class 4s can be used in combination with a weight distribution hitch to increase the overall towing capacity. With a weight distribution system attached, the gross trailer weight capacity increases up to 14,000 lbs. and the tongue weight capacity increases to 1,400 lbs.

    https://www.curtmfg.com/trailer-hitches/rear-mount/class-4/learn-more

    The vehicle uses a Class 4 hitch. That means it abides by the above specs. You're not going to find the weight on a sticker on the hitch somewhere.
    Use a WDH and you can tow the vehicle's max towing weight. Don't, and stop at 10k. The post above from a dealer's website lists the two differences. Again, some states won't let you tow 10k without a WDH anyways.
     
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    Yes exactly this is my point..... this is Curt's numbers for this specific class IV, but Each manufacture boasts different numbers. So no, my vehicle doesn't abide by Curts specs, I have a Toyota OEM receiver.

    https://www.reesetowpower.com/product/37034_class-iv-trailer-hitch

    This one above is 7000/700 and with WDH 12,000/1200 and still considered class IV with completely different ratings.

    So that is my question, What is the OEM hitch receiver rating...TOYOTA Dealer and Brand Rep won't give me an answer besides a "guess" of 10k GTW and will not discuss tongue rating or WDH ratings.
     
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    You need a different truck if you need to do this to accommodate your trailer.
     
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    Anyone find the Tundras CGVWR by chance? Haven't been able to find this number on google.

    While vehicle and trailer weight talks are all fun, keep in mind the combined rating needs to be accounted for to be within the Tundras limits as well.
     
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    The GCWR and TWR ratings are listed on pages 189/190 in the 2022 Tundra Owner's Manual. Have a look at post #426 from the 'Payload Stickers?' thread for a breakdown of the codes.

    Tundra Owner's Manual  - Pages 189:190.jpg
     
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    Thank you, I dont have a 22 to look in the manual and didnt think of downloading one to check.
     
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    Here's the link to the Toyota.com Downloadable Manuals for the 2022 Tundra.
     
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    On my 2006 F250 had a max tongue weight rating was 1250 lbs.
    My old trailer tongue weight loaded was 1,200 lbs, not fun. The loaded weight of the old Nash 26ft trailer was only 8,500 lbs.
    Had to put Air bags on the truck even with wdh.
    Would not go there again.
     
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    I don't NEED to do this to accommodate my trailer (Pending the hitch receiver ratings per what this post is about)..... I am under payload without doing such, but can't put much more in the truck besides me and my GF, only mention that so I can put a back pack and cooler or something else in etc, which I guess is my bad for going off topic too.
     
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    So Ford has a Tongue rating on the receiver.... But still nothing on the toyota. thats nice haha
     
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    SAE Class ratings are universal. Some brands may have products that support less than the maximum rating for the class. The hitch on the Tundra will support the maximum tow rating of the model as indicated in the screenshots from the manual above. You're trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill because you don't understand how ratings work. No, the ford doesn't have a sticker with the tongue weight on it either. Tongue weight is dependent on if using a WDH or not.

    Another site describing the class ratings: https://www.reese-hitches.com/learning_center/general-towing-classes
     
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    Yes I do not understand. So I have been asking many different sources and seeing different answers/unclear answers from the people who should have answers (dealer/OEM) thank you for your input.
     

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