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2022 tundra engine totaled

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by Stock1794, Nov 23, 2022.

  1. Nov 23, 2022 at 12:15 PM
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    Stock1794

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    Just want to share my experience with my 2022 engine giving out on me during a road trip. Just saw a post about someone who had an engine failure as well. Was road tripping across west Texas and got an engine stopped pull over message randomly, so I did. Engine didn’t turn on again for a while. After an hour or so it turned on and I started driving but minutes in I got the same message then the engine started making a knocking noise like rod knock. You can see the vid of rod knock here & the full story as well!
    https://youtu.be/k76xRY6mrF4

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    ot being covered under Toyota warranty as well. Insurance will be taking care of me.

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  2. Nov 23, 2022 at 12:34 PM
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    The new Tundra is proving to be a big snowflake.

    This is unfortunate, (and we don't know how much you're not saying about your off-road endeavors) but it seems like these trucks are allergic to water. You drive through some dog leg deep water and you blow up a motor. Others get their windshield tinted and a few drops on the dashboard causes a CEL Christmas show, and the truck is depressed and stops responding to anything until it has a timeout. This is bullshit Toyota, no wonder CR no longer recommends the Tundra.... It's a fucking joke. Don't drive your truck too unkindly or it will show you just how much of a Pu$$y it really is. Pathetic Toyota!
    Good luck OP with the V8 build!
     
  3. Nov 23, 2022 at 1:03 PM
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    Wow, good job on the Tundra for running months after blocking the filter and ingesting water. I'm impressed by that
     
  4. Nov 23, 2022 at 1:09 PM
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    :eek:

    Second or third I’ve seen so far


    Sorry to see OP
     
  5. Nov 23, 2022 at 1:27 PM
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    Sorry to see but i wonder if another dealership would say something different . Sounds like you spun a main bearing and more damaged followed . Do you redline it at all ? Do you keep up on the oil changes ? If they say bent rod I’d wanna see it .
     
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    If your truck ingested water then it would have bent the rod right then and there. Not on the highway. Something’s not right. Sounds like the dealer made an easy exit on the warranty. I’d talk to a good motor guy and get their 2 cents. Sounds like some BS to me
     
  7. Nov 23, 2022 at 1:37 PM
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    Sucks, man. Great YouTube vid, though. The way you overlaid the original advertisement is pretty condemning. They show it going through at least a few inches of water. If that’s what caused it, then Toyota should be liable. I’d be so mad, I would escalate and lawyer up out of spite. Lol.
     
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    I watched your video 10 days ago, I do not understand how Toyota didn't cover your engine. What reason did they give? There is a warranty still in effect right?
     
  9. Nov 23, 2022 at 1:48 PM
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    RLHULK

    RLHULK Too many gamma rays in all that BBQ smoke.

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    Damn that really sucks.


    If water had caused that damage it would have happened at the time of exposure not 1000 miles later.

    Hope it all gets taken care of.
     
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    I ran a GM 4.8 with a bent rod that I hydrolocked for a couple hundred miles before it finally gave out on the highway. Its definitely possible. The video OP is quoting even says "Off-roading is inherently dangerous. Abusive use may result in bodily harm or vehicle damage." And no, the water does not have to be to the fender flare....if you splash into shallower puddle and it splashes up while youre on the gas, its gonna suck it in. He went 3 months without checking air filters after going mudding, probably didn't change his oil either which likely caused more damage.

    Theres always 2 sides to a story and then theres the truth...
     
  11. Nov 23, 2022 at 2:31 PM
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    Not sure on the redline, well no I guess I haven’t not really sure what that is. I had last oil change around 7-8k miles, broke down at 15k. Yeah I never got shown the actual rod or anything tech just explained how water in the engine causes the rod to vent
     
  12. Nov 23, 2022 at 2:32 PM
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    yeah that’s what always rubbed me the wrong way like if water is what caused the damage it should’ve happened a long long time ago. It happened on the worst time it could’ve happened 500+ miles away from home after driving for weeks. :)
     
  13. Nov 23, 2022 at 2:35 PM
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    Reason was the damage was caused by outside influence. There is a warranty still in effect yes. Insurance is covering it though
     
  14. Nov 24, 2022 at 7:25 PM
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    Either way, a replacement engine shouldn't cost $32k. At that point, you would just scrap the truck and buy a domestic (naturally aspirated) V8. You can probably replace the engine for $10k or less parts and labor.
     
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    Sorry about the damage, but your truck looks great!
     
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    Just curious what kind of insurance covers such a thing?
     
  17. Nov 24, 2022 at 8:36 PM
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    full coverage insurance most of the time covers engine damage caused by water ingestion. i deal with it all the time at work.


    to be fair about bent rods, i had a scion TC that took 4 months after getting water into the cylinder to finally blow up. it just BARELY bent the rod and no one caught it, didnt really affect how it ran.. but it DID bend, and ultimately went boom

    shitty situation. sucks. insurance will at least fix it.. and yes toyota engines are ungodly expensive because they refuse to sell long blocks.. you will get a short block and 2 bare heads, reuse all you can. replace whats needed.. engine failures under warranty are rare so i dont think they want to bother stocking whole engines like hyundai, chevy, ford ect.

    that being said.. these new v35a's have been a headache for us at the dealer with weird issues.. but no failures yet here. but i feel theres going to be on in the near future with the current track record...
     
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    That's a problem in my book. I blew up an N55 motor on my 335i at VIR.

    From this point forward, all my purchases will be a naturally aspirated domestic V8 because if I blow up that, you just go online and add to cart... new engine comes.

    Relative to complicated Japanese turbocharged V6 engines European turbocharged I6/V8 engines, domestic V8s are cheap. Catastrophic powertrain failures don't result in you deciding to scrap a car.
     
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    Here's where I'm confused. It doesn't seem to fall under comp or collision. If I approached my agent with something similar, I'd expect to be thrown out of the office while they barked at me about abuse. Keep in mind that I'm no insurance expert. This is just sounds very odd to me.

    I'm glad OP is getting it squared away. I doubt too many people can swing a repair bill like that.
     
  20. Nov 24, 2022 at 10:07 PM
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    Totally sucks. Would a snorkel prevented this? I feel sorry for the OP. Is there anyway to prevent this besides a snorkel? I mean who doesn’t go through a nasty deep puddle, muddy country road heading to a hunting spot, or whatever.
     
  21. Nov 24, 2022 at 10:30 PM
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    When I had my Magnum, I bent a rod and locked the engine after it took in water from a puddle at an intersection. Only had it about a yr after I drove it off the showroom floor. Insurance paid for a new engine but then got into a pissing match with Dodge over who was liable. I guess they found a piece of the inlet had not been installed properly at the factory and allowed splashed water to get in.
    Didn't matter in the end. I t-boned a lady that ran a stop sign. But that's a different story.
    Generally, from what Ihave read, comprehensive will cover engines if the failure is caused by outside influences (water/fire/fence post) but not when it is cause by lack of maintenance or intentional abuse.
     
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    My thought exactly.

    Difficult to tell off OP - described as “outside influence”. Normally - breakdown due to defect in parts/design or other “wear and tear” is a big not covered. Now some insurance does offer “mechanical coverage” similar to an extenddd warranty - which supplements existing coverage in these cases - which could be the case here.

    What is typically covered under comprehensive or other than collision by all insurance is resultant damage from error or problems caused by errors or actions of others. Anything from vandals putting something in the vehicle causing damage or a kid at the oil change place failing to properly put the plug back in place/putting in the wrong fluid in place of the oil or ever popular “water in gas” or “I put gas in my husbands diesel because if was cheaper” (or vice versa).

    Bottom line - insurance covers “direct loss” - loss where there is a direct line between cause and failure - if there is dispute between possible causes - they might step in if it’s possible the cause might be covered (or if the cost to disprove is going to cost as much as the fix - for example if it’s a simple water in the gas - it’s gonna cost $650-850 to get a fuel test and expert to write the report. Faced with this or 6 hours mechanics time to drop the tank/drain it/replace filter and pump and run a fuel cleaner through system - I often just paid it versus testing. Might save the company a few dollars investigating and proving it was just a bad fuel pump - but results in a pissed customer and every time it really is bad fuel I just spent $850 more than I needed to).
     
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    Hard for me to imagine that it’s all due to water crossing. I do this quite often, whether off roading or hunting, and I’ve never had water or mud enter my airbox.
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    True, but driving through water that deep at slower speeds, where it does not splash everywhere is typically no problem. Hit that same water faster and it can be enough to force it all over the engine bay, into all sorts of nooks and crannies, including your air intake.
     
  25. Nov 25, 2022 at 7:20 AM
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    We have had one of these engines apart for the last 2 months that needs a shortblock with all its guts scattered on the floor. Toyota has no estimate of when we will get the parts we need. This one has 32k miles on it and spun the number 3 rod bearing. We have a monthly technician conference discussing any problems were seeing in the field and last month they stated they are starting to see multiple rod bearing failures. I have yet to see or hear about them bending rods though. Still sorry this happened to op however. $32k is quite the hefty bill but thank god insurance stepped in. IMG_0309.jpg
     
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    I hit a high curb in my 2010 doing a u turn, and it was enough for my steering rack to finally go. USAA covered the $3k repair.

    Comprehensive is there for everything else. Obviously Toyota wouldn’t warranty hitting a deer, but insurance pays for it. I’m just surprised his insurance isn’t totaling the truck.
     
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    32 grand for an engine. Come on…

    I will be in the market for a new truck in three years and I will be monitoring this new Tundra closely.

    Sorry OP. You have a damn nice looking truck.
     
  28. Nov 25, 2022 at 7:31 AM
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    And not a reliable one at that. Who knows how long a new one would last.
     
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    That truck would never be the same to me. I’d unload it quickly.
     
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    Same here. I bought my 19 knowing the new one was coming out so i could get my hands on the 5.7 before it was too late. New models just always equal a big headache. I do believe that this truck will be reliable in the upcoming years but they still have a lot to figure out to get this platform to be deemed as reliable. We shall see.
     

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