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23 Tundra SR5 4x4 No Lift - 33 inch tire upgrade worth it?

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by DPhantastic, Mar 26, 2023.

  1. Mar 26, 2023 at 8:49 PM
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    DPhantastic

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    Based on my homework, for Stock (No Lift, No Level) the best/max tire to upgrade from 32inch to 33inch is

    265/70R18 to 275/70R18 (This is only an 1.69% increase in size)
    10.43 inch width vs 10.83 inch width
    32.61 in Diameter vs 33.16 in Diameter

    I just want my Truck to look taller with No Lift.

    Will the upgrade in tires make my truck look aesthetically meaner/taller/tougher.

    IF NOT, please tell me now so I don't go drop 1.5K on a set of new tires for nothing.

    I swear google has no images for the comparison in search.

    2023 Tundra 4x4 SR5 SX.jpg
     
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  2. Mar 26, 2023 at 8:59 PM
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    For what it's worth, I upgraded from OEM Wildpeak AT3-A which measured 32 inch diameter to Cooper's that measured a real 33 inch. Here's an after, sorry don't have before. If you want meaner/tougher look, I don't think I'd be content to drop $1.5k and "only" get the look you see on my truck. Going to 35 inch would be your next size increase, but it will cost you MPG. You could go with meaner/tougher looking tires than I did, that would help with your goal. But that will cost you noise and probably wet pavement handling. Hope this helps.

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  3. Mar 26, 2023 at 9:09 PM
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    Wait for a lightly used set of 275/70 comes up for sale when that person regrets not going even bigger
     
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  4. Mar 26, 2023 at 10:35 PM
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    Looking at your image. There isn't a significant wow factor in visual. Attached an image from another website as well.

    https://tirepursuits.com/265-70r18-vs-275-70r18-tire-size/

    Only Advantage I get for upgrading to 275
    The 275 70r18 size is great if you value safety and steady handling, while the 265 70r 18 is ideal if you want more RPM power with your vehicle.

    I'm not sure how others are even able to fit 35 without a lift. From my readings, they won't fit with the stock wheel base. Even the tire center websites don't support 35inch on a stock.

    Looks like I will stick my my stock tires.

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  5. Mar 27, 2023 at 7:29 AM
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    Agree, there is very little visual difference. And the lift is minor at only 1/2 inch, should have been 1/4 inch if the OEM tires were true to size (that's just one of a few beefs with the OEM tires). I would say that my new tires (275/60/20) look better in that the OEM tires looked too small for the wheel opening. So yes, the truck looks more balanced in that regard, but certainly not lifted or as tough as many others with 35's.
    About fitting, there are entire threads on that topic and I think you'll find that 35's fit without problem.
     
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  6. Mar 28, 2023 at 7:40 AM
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    I put 34's (LT275/65/20) on my truck without a lift and it fits perfectly with no rubbing. My TRD lift was just delivered; just waiting for the dealer to give me an install date.
     
  7. Mar 28, 2023 at 8:24 AM
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    Nitto Ridge Grapplers in 275/70/18 def changed the look of the truck, and give you great on road experience.
    Smooth, quiet, and aggressive look, just make sure to rotate every 5-6k miles.
     
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    I put the same size tire on my truck and it made it look more proportional. I put the tires on out of practicality though, I need all terrain tires with the snowflake for winter and load range E for when I pull our toy hauler. Hard to tell a mileage difference because I put them on as soon as I got the truck.
     
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    I think if you do the 33" and put some wheel spacers on, it'll be the look you're wanting. I want the TRD lift but the way I use my truck, a simple spacer lift would be fine. Also I want to still be able to park under my carport.
     
  10. Mar 29, 2023 at 1:01 AM
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    I put 275/60/20 winter tires on, up from 265/60/20. While I've noticed a little low-end bog on the slight increase in diameter, the acceleration and gear changing actually feels more "normal." It's finally starting to warm up here, and I'm not actually looking forward to putting the OEM tires back on. Yes, acceleration from a stop will be boringly smooth, and accomplished below 1700 rpms, but I like hearing the engine work a little. I'll have the OEM tires on for another seven months, but after next winter, I'll be getting new wheels/tires for summer, and the tires will be at least 33."
     
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    I went to 275/70R18 BFGs and a 1.75" spacers up front

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    I put 35/12.5/18 in my TRD Pro 23 and I have not modified anything no rub no removal of flaps and slightly aggressive look but 15 mpg only.
     
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    I had the 35x13s on my truck for years before I got the lift. No rub... ever. I hear the 3rd gen has a lot more clearance. 295/70r18 would be good on the stock rims.

    Just find out the details from the people who have done it. Rim width, offset... trimming? Alignment?
     
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    Subd, op have you searched 275/70 in this subforum?

    I am in same boat as you, want to go to real 33s but scared the look doesn't fill the wheel wells very well

    I don't want 34 or 35 cuz I don't tow and don't want to kill gas mileage

    I may level the front after a few years of use on the shocks, same with my tire issue want to replace the wheel/tires now but they work fine and flushing $3k down just for "looks" when a recession is creeping is not smart, rather horde $ for next real estate bell cycle

    But some pics of 275/70 look awesome and others don't have a major change of look to them. Have you actually chosen a tire yet? The tire also creates diff looks from the edge of the sidewalls threads makes it fill out more with good AT
     
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    You've got 10 gears and number 1 is lower than the 2nd gen's... and massive amounts of torque. You'll have no issue taking off... and I don't know why you think it would hurt gas mileage...? Assuming it's the same tire either way.

    Tundras look good with 37s. Anything smaller looks less good. With 18" rims you have many options in the 34-35" range, a couple that even fit on stock rims with near zero trimming. And no lift needed.
     
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    please see fuelly stats nobody is getting EPA ratings on new gen 3.

    This is first vehicle I have ever owned that does not meet or exceed EPA ratings.

    Fyi anything higher then 34 the rear end needs new gearing or your stuck in 8/9 and never go to 10. Don't believe me just research it. One hybrid owner got so annoyed going to 34 that his hybrid mode rarely engaged anymore - went back next day and swapped to 33s

    And $3k for a "look" is poor use of ones money, if you tow or actually live off-road and need a lift and all terrain tire uses daily, that is when it makes sense. 99% of the lifted trucks are pavement princesses
     
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    Fuelly shows that gen3 gets almost 3 mpg better than gen2, and better than the Ford 3.5L Eco. Who cares if you rarely use 10th gear, what does that have to do with anything?

    37s are great offroad. Yes, most people with pickups rarely go offroad... again, irrelevant. Stick with stock size tires if you are on pavement; why increase the size at all? Frankly, I wanted good road performance I'd lower it and get wider tires, but not taller.
     
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    Lol
     
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    Any update on this, Silver? Did you stick with the 34's after your lift was installed or go bigger? Any before/after pics? I'm buying some 34s and plan to keep stock suspension set up for now. Hard to choke down another $6k (quoted roughly $3k parts, $3k labor) for the TRD lift right now. Would be interested to see pic of your truck on 34s before lift and after. Thanks!
     
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    Like me! I’ve got a set of 295’s to put on and will be selling my lightly used 275 KO2’s. The 275 is a great fit for no lift or level.
     
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    I would like to know is the cooper 4 s will ride nicer and make the truck handle any better than the stock Bridgestone Dueler H/T I have the 20 inch rims thanks in advance for any help making a decision
     
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    Just a note... if you have rub with no lift, you'll still have rub after the lift... anytime the suspension compresses in a turn.

    No. Don't buy ATs for handling, ride, or mpg.
     
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    Got it makes sense
     
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    The reason is because the contact points are fore and aft. On my 2nd gen (and no lift) I couldn't hit the top of the fender with 35s not matter how hard I tried (these are +25, 18x9 with 325mm wide 35s... actually 34.6 like labeled 35s). The 3rd gen appears to have better clearance. Still, if you go >35 you may need to be careful about the top of the wheelwell. Also note that if you use aftermarket wheels that stick out farther, that makes the fore-aft and top clearance worse. You are pretty safe with stock rims and tires up to 295 width, <35" dia. For 20" rims, this would be 295/60r20 which are 33.9" nominally. 295/65r20 is 35.1", but that might be fine on a 3rd gen with no lift. If you have a lift it's a good idea to extend the bumpstops a little to limit the tire's up travel before the shock itself has to do it.
     
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    Yeah I run 275s 60s 20s and they fill the wheel well gap nicely and look good. Toyo Open Countrys are great tires but they are 126Ts and if I had to do it again I would source a lighter load tire at 116T which would be softer and give a better ride.
     
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    There's a sticky wheels tire thread. These are 275 65 20. Def changed the look. Before/after

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    Does the load range matter? First truck so I’m not sure if I should be focused on the load rating but don’t want a crazy rough ride. I don’t really tow much but I do have my bed full of stuff for the most part.
     
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    I’m currently running general atx 285 60 r20. Not sure if it’s the tire but just a rough ride but still soft but rough or more loud than I’m used to. Is this because of the e rating on the tire? What else can I use for my rig that is still safe. I kinda like the size of the tire so don’t think I want a bigger size.
     
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    Most will be E rated. The Recon Grappler comes in SL load with a T speed rating, which should give you a better ride and good mpg.
     
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    Weld 20x9, Toyo 285/60, RC N3 level, ceramic tint
    Pics please... I'm trying to decide between the the Toyo AT3 in 285/60R20 or 275/60R20.
     
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