265 75 16

Well this may get moved, but the most 1st gen specific traffic is here.

And this feels very noob of me...sorry.

I got new tires. Had trouble finding the size and load range I wanted in Wildpeak at4. But that's the tire I wanted. I know I shouldn't believe that the tire shop employees know best, but...Stock 265 70 16 is not offered in that tire at my preferred load range. Could go 245 75, or 265 75. I couldn't see liking a 1" skinnier tire on my wheels, so I figured I'd go bigger. Just one inch taller, no big deal...

On sharp right turns the back of the passenger tire rubs the frame. No rubbing on driver side on sharp left turns. With my Tacoma there was a wide range of tires that wouldn't rub and so I figured one inch difference overall diameter would hardly be noticeable. Clearly I was wrong.

Ok so no matter what does or doesn't make sense to me, the fact is the passenger tire rubs. No getting around that. But wow. Just one inch? We have some tight margins on these trucks!

And of course I found this later. Anyway, wish I had done my homework. Tire shop guys assured me I'd hardly notice a difference from stock, much less have fitment issues.






So having never dealt with rubbing...it's not rubbing the fender so I'm not going to eat up the fender. Guess I need to watch for tire wear and rubbing the paint off the frame?

Anyone else running the same tire with no lift? I'm looking for both 'a little rubbing is fine' and 'dude you're a dumb-a**' comments, whichever is appropriate...

I wasn't looking for oversize tires. But definitely didn't want smaller than stock tires. I like how these look and don't mind bigger than stock, but the rubbing at full turn bothers me. Should it? Really just took the tire shop advice, assuming the size difference was nearly negligible. But nearly negligible on the smaller/skinnier side vs nearly negligible on the bigger/taller side, I'm definitely going bigger/taller...even though stock is preferable.

In the end I guess this might be me venting, is all. Had I known all the facts, maybe, maybe I would have gone with a different tire that was offered in my stock size and preferred load range. With zero rubbing, I'd make the choice I did on the 265 75s, no hesitation. I want Falken Wildpeaks, and I don't mind slightly larger. But rubbing is not something I've dealt with before.

 

When did you buy them

 

Some are wider than others at 265-75 I guess

I've only used that size. But only in load range c or standard. You aren't using 2nd gen Tacoma rims are you? With 2nd gen Tacoma rims, they will rub.

 

Just dont drive too fast at full lock, it'll be fine. Those 33's i was trying were rubbing on my mudflaps, but if you're not touching fender, then maybe spacers will work.

drive through a ditch while turning and make sure they dont catch a fender while stuffed

 

Curious does it make a difference between tire brands of the same size? Or tire type like AT vs MT? For example: size 265/75/r16 BFG vs Toyo vs Michelin, AT or MT, rub more or less?

 

I currently have 265/75-16 BFG AT tires on my 2005 AC 4x4. I literally found the tires in the back of my shop. Last summer. I completely forgot i had them...for many years. I didn't really want a tire that tall, but hey, no one in their right mind would kick them to the curb. I'm guessing that the tires are worn down to about 65%. And yes, they still rub the frame at full lock, but just baaaaaarely. Not enough to hear any noise, but i noticed a smidge bit of paint missing. If the tires were at 100%, then i'm positive i'd hear them rub the frame. I deleted my whole front swaybar system from my truck, so my truck probably articulates a bit more than a tundra with a swaybar. I also use (work) my truck offroad....like a lot. Even when my tires get crossed up, i still don't hear the tires rub against the frame. There has been zero rub on my fenders or mud flap from my tires, but it's possible that it could happen if my tires had 100% tread.

So i've seen lots and lots and lots of different 4x builds while i've been out and about. One common trend with everyone is to install a taller tire. Which would inevitably cause some sort of issue. Tires rubbing against the frame was, and still is VERY common. The worst part is when the tire rubs it makes a gaud-awful embarrassing racket. Other than that, i wouldn't worry too much about damaging the tire or the frame. BUT, if you can, i'd switch out the tires for a skinner and shorter set. The other downfall to the taller 265/75-16 tire is that it will sap perceivable horsepower and fuel economy from your truck.




FYI-I don't have a lift, but i did make a bastardize my existing Monroe struts with the original OEM toyota coils. Maybe it lifted the truck a bit, maybe it didn't. It's for temporary usage until i get new shocks at some point, so i haven't put any thought into it, nor will i.

 

Square corners will rub more than rounded corners.

 

The tire guy said they would fit, go back and say they didnt and ask them to swap

 

They'll stop rubbing eventually.

 

Also, i noticed you want a tire in a particular load range. Does that mean you plan on hauling or towing shtuff often?

 

I bought them about two weeks ago. I had considered taking them back. I think that's part of why I posted. I'm a bit torn now. I'm not a stranger to slightly oversize tires. My Tacoma with the TRD package came with 31x10.50/15, but all my older Toyota pickups came with smaller tires. 31s would fit and nicely fill out the wheel well, but were bigger than stock. I'm ok with that.

I guess there's a couple things here and I need to decide (fast because the miles are adding up). The mileage on these trucks is bad enough as it is. I don't love that mine will now be worse. And I don't want to lose power. I can take a small hit on each of those but only very small and still be happy.

I drive off road a lot. But nothing crazy. I don't need more clearance.

But the tires are on there. They look good, they're the brand and ply I want. So it'd be easy to just roll with it. I guess I needed a stern warning about the rubbing to push me over the edge toward returning them. If no one has any (aside from getting them out on some uneven terrain and seeing if they rub more than just the frame), then I'll probably decide I'm ok with them, and take my mind off this.

My truck is pretty stock. I have the OEM rims that came on 1st gen Tundras and the later 1st gen Tacoma with 16" wheels (my Tacoma came with 15s, it's a 98).

Where I live, most everyone with a truck runs 10 ply. Just cause everyone else is doing it doesn't mean I have to, but it does make sense. Lots and lots of dirt road, and lots of the gravelly/washboard rough but not so rough that you can't drive 40mph kind of dirt roads. I do tow a camper trailer. I could definitely "get away" with C-range. On my Tacoma, with Wildpeak at3's, I've had zero flat tires. But when I was running Les Schwab brands, as soon as the tread got below half, I'd get a lot of flats. Add to that the Tundra is heavier, and I figure E-range is justified. Not necessary, but good insurance.

Thanks for the input. If I knew all this sitting in the tire shop, I might have gone with whatever tire I could get in stock size. But I like how they look, they're the brand/model I want, and it's easy to be lazy and just run them. Just annoying. I wasn't out thinking "what's the biggest tire I can fit without a lift?"and just failed to do my research. I just went to the tire shop for new tires, found stock size wasn't available and believed everyone at the shop that the difference either slightly smaller or slightly bigger would be almost unnoticeable. So I didn't really get the chance the weigh the pros and cons before the tires were already on the truck with a few hundred miles on them

 

How does your speedometer register with them vs GPS? That’s one factor you haven’t mentioned which may or may not bother you.

 

Haven't tested yet. Even with stock tires my Tacoma was off, so while I'd love an accurate speedo, I'm used to it reading different. Are there good apps for this? I remember downloading a free app on my phone to test my Tacoma. But I assume the app wasn't 100% accurate, and when we're talking about a 3-5mph difference with bigger tires, I wan't sure the app was really accurate enough to give me useful info.

 

Cut off wheel and sledge hammer time

 

Yellr box to correct on our ‘02’s worked nicely for me.

I bought a gps usb speedo for like $20 but Waze is pretty close to it for free. Mine was significantly off due to regear and 285/75R16. I’m just curious how close this size is to correct for speedo mostly.

 

Unless I have a change of heart this week, I'm just going to roll with them. It's the indecision that kills me, and the fact that it's a several-year decision that I'll be living with. Gas mileage and power, when I wasn't even trying to go oversize. But I like them. Power loss, depending on how noticeable, will be the big one for me. 1-2mpg is nothing in the scheme of things. Don't really want the power loss, but I think the E-range is going to rob more power than the size increase. Of course the two of them together...adds up.

Thanks I'll look into the mph with some gps app next time I take a highway trip. Just looked up Yellow Box. Didn't know something like that existed. Cost not worth the 3-5mph correction for me at this time, but I'm glad to know that's out there.

I want to be careful comparing myself to other people, but I have a couple friends in town with DC Tundras with a lift and tires at least as big as mine. That makes me think "what am I even worried about? It's fine". But then I think "stock is just fine for me and there's more power and better gas mileage!". I think, like I said, it's not that I mind the bigger tires and power/mileage/rubbing hit. It's that I didn't get to make that decision. I'm having to deal with it now, after the fact. But depending on how I feel at the end of this week, I can always stop in the tire shop and have a conversation.

 

You could probably just trade them on market place or something if it really bothers you lol or just get some spacers and I'm sure it'll solve the rubbing issue

 

Yes. I'd be sure to lose a lot of money going on the marketplace. Not doing spacers. I'll just run them.

It bothers me a little when I think about it, but the truck really does look good with them, and I think I'm happy to just put this out of my mind and move on. Planning to take a break from projects, for my sanity, and get out on a hike today. Means driving up a good dirt road. If there's still only frame rubbing and no fender rubbing, I'll call it good.

 

If you’re unhappy with them now is the time to go exchange them at the store. Most chains and tires offer 30 day returns.

 

I did not consider checking into the shop return policy.

 

A 10 ply isn't the best load range for an offroad tire. A C or D tire would be better. Keep in mind that the stock sized tire for the base model tundra v8 was a 245/70-16. Once you start going bigger, you loose out on power unless you regear the r&p. I only bring that up since you said you tow a camper trailer. What about a more manageable 215/85-16? The tire is skinner and there should be plenty of load range choices in that size. No doubt i would change the tires you just bought to something smaller!

 

OP, are you being too selective on your tire choices? e rated tires on a gen 2 is really too stiff, i tried d rated on my gen 1 and even they were a little stiff

 

My e rated 34's feel fine

 

I have a 1st gen. 2002. E rated tire has not felt too stiff so far. And the E-rating/10 ply, around here, isn't for traction crawling over rocks, where I know you want more tire flexibility than a E-rated tire gives, if that's what you mean. The 10 ply is for driving 40-45mph down gravel, washboard roads with sharp rocks, nails etc. Way fewer flats with thicker tires.

Man these P and metric ratings mess with me. 30x9.50 vs 31x10.50 I could understand. 215 85? I always need to google those tire diagrams to figure out how to compare. Also, since my truck is a TRD, 265 70 16 are what came stock.

 

Falken Wildpeak sizes are crazy. Yes I'm being selective. I know, however, that these are excellent tires. I think researching size/load rating on these first is less work than researching all the different tire brand options.

One thing I just found. They only offer 265 70, my stock size, in SL. Closest I can find, which I think is very damn close, is 255 70, which they offer in XL. A couple hundred pound higher rating. Only ~.4" shorter and skinnier than stock...

 

What pressure are you running?

 

chalk test is the way. 33-35psi is ideal for me, but I run around 36-38 for little better mileage.

 

Did yall see that the EV silveraido's are calling for 70ish lbs in their rubberband tires?

 

I run 40/38 on the highway, but my bitchelins arent e-rated. The last couple of trips have been 35/32 and cost about 1.5 mpg over a 3 tank average hw/city/hw.

 

They're at 46 right now. Tire shop had them at 40 but then I read something on another Tundra forum, I think about with E range tires, when you drop below 45-ish you're actually losing a ton of your load capacity. Although maybe at E-rating, I have load capacity to spare...