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295/60r20 vs 275/65r20

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by extremes074, Jan 26, 2024.

  1. Jan 26, 2024 at 6:33 PM
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    Have a 22’ non-hybrid 1794 4x4 with 24,000 miles. Due for tires real soon due to the 1/2 treads :(

    Was wondering what the pluses and minuses are for the following sizes.

    295/60r20 - 33.9
    275/65r20 - 34.1

    Thinking between these 2 as I’d like to not have to worry about the fit. (Stock, No Level) and am not looking to affect the mpg too much although I do realize it will go down.

    Admit that I’m pretty confused with tire sizes and if I’m not mistaken I’m thinking these would fit nicely enough with no rubbing?

    Also wondering if anyone has any experience yet with the new Falken AT4’s

    Would be curious about the new KO3’s as well but am thinking reviews for this would be even tougher as I think they are newer?

    Living in Florida the rain performance would be a lot more important to me than anything else. That and towing the boat/boat ramps etc (boat is only about 5,000 lbs)

    Also saw a size with a diameter of 34.8 but not sure if that’s pushing it??

    I know it’s a lot, appreciate anything anyone had to offer.

    Thanks,
    David
     
  2. Jan 26, 2024 at 6:42 PM
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    Or 285/65 for that matter. Would they fit?

    285/65r20 - 34.6”
     
  3. Jan 26, 2024 at 6:53 PM
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    Look at the weight as well, stay away from load e ATs if rain and wet performance and ride quality is important to you
     
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    Keep hearing this but seems most of the sizes I’d like are in the E rating :(
     
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    Most will be for a truck tire, unless you want 18s. I run the toyo open country's e load tire in 275 and the are smooth with a great ride. Make little to no noise as well. Depends on what you want but I think BFG KO2s come in a c load tire.
     
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    Your stock tires are roughly a 32.5 and weigh 39-40 lbs. depending on brand. Nitto makes a 275/65/20 Recon Grappler that's a 116T and weighs 47 lbs. with a diameter of 34.1...as big as I would run without killing mileage and ride. The same tire in an LT weighs 57 lbs. That's an additional 10 lbs a wheel and a whopping 17 lbs. a wheel over stock of unsprung weight. Choose wisely my friend...these will look badass but not turn your truck into a brick wagon imho. Look on tire rack and you can compare options.
     
  7. Jan 27, 2024 at 7:10 AM
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    just an option for you but I have

    275/60/20 cooper AT3 4s

    p rated, only a few lbs more than stock, 65k warranty , and made in USA

    ride excellent and are really good in wet conditions

    IMG_3917.jpg
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  8. Jan 27, 2024 at 7:20 AM
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    Thanks for the advice guys! Going for the look of course but don’t want to at the expense of too much gas mileage and comfort.

    I realize what I normally use the truck for and it’s for most part commuting.

    Do take the boat out weekends when I can but it’s not more then a half hour drive and only a 20’er…

    appreciate any and all advice!!!

    David
     
  9. Jan 27, 2024 at 7:21 AM
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    if that’s the case , what I recommended up there will be perfect , the others are just too damn heavy and stiff , those are still a nice full 33” a little larger but great overall

    good luck
     
  10. Jan 27, 2024 at 7:48 AM
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    I'm with @extremes074 that I do not need a E load range. My past F150 was a 265/55/20 and the Falken Wildpeak at3 I put on was an XL. Wet and snow was night and day vs the Nitto Terra grapplers I ran before.
    I'll keep watching what everyone is coming up with as this Tundra has a funky tire size for sure.

    Still havnt found any wildpeaks in an xl in really any size for my truck. Another post stated this but never disclosed of where they got the at4's at unfortunately.
     
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    Get these.

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    And if you’re worry about mpg then buy some stock take off. All aftermarket size will affect mpg. Don’t fool yourself
     
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    What brand/size etc, pictures first show
     
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    Michelins are all American made tires, as far as I know. They don't make a bad tire. All around great tires from pilot spots to ltx. Toyo and Nitto share the same manufacturer and are good too.
     
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    Yes! These are the ones I am going for. Finally Michelin has a tire that has a bit of an aggressive sidewall. 70k treadwear rating, you can't go wrong with Michelins, and I am sure the ride is tremendous.
     
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    Where are they made? Just curious
     
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    This looks like an awesome tire, but I wonder if they are planning to make 18 inch versions. The CrossClimate 2 is another tire I wish they made in stock size.
     
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    I’ll check my tires
     
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    Thanks for all the suggestions guys. I’ll let you guys know when I finally decide. Would love a 34 but seems most are pretty heavy. And E rated…

    Didn’t know tires were this confusing…lol
     
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    I don't understand the hatred for e rated bigger truck tires. They are heavier but I average 16-17 mpg in the city and between 18-19 mpg on the highway. Not sure what the 116T would do but having true and real all terrain tires is way better than having a light truck trail tire.
     
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    For the sake of conversation…

    Why would a 1/2 ton owner get a heavy/tougher tire and decrease MPG’s if it’s not warranted? P rated Tundra stock size tires will allow it to tow anything WITHIN the Tundra’s specs, obviously set forth by Toyota (including speed limit when towing). Real off-roading requires E tires. But in all honesty how many owners are pushing their trucks Offroad. If an E tire is needed it’s needed if it’s not than it’s not…

    I would bet many do not need them…
     
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    As Oey12 said, no one is hating on E rated tires...unless you plan on really roughing it and going for it off road it makes no sense to add 15-20 lbs of unsprung weight per wheel to a $60k light truck that was engineered to have its best ride, handling, and economy on non-E rated tires. Your sacrificing all of that engineering know how and 2-3 mpg for no good reason, not to mention additional stress on components like shocks, ball joints, and wheel bearings. If your one of the 2% that bought a new truck to bash through the woods, slog through mud and water crossings, climb up rocky technical hills, then by all means go for it. Realistically most of us want a little beefier look without giving up the great driving characteristics of a new truck, and it can be done with minimal downside.
     
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    Okay, yeah I like to go down farm roads out in the mud and sand, I bought the truck to be a truck. Sounds like most you all need SUVs.
     
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