adjustable track bar and dual steering stabilizers

We have a 2017 Toyota Tundra with the 1794 trim that we have put a 4" lift and 34" tires on. This was our first time to do something like this and now we are experience the death wobble. I sent a message to Rough Country and they let me know we need to add and adjustable track bar and dual steering stabilizers. Does anyone have a suggestion for the brand and type I should get?

Thanks

Rob

 

Huh

 

Rough country are idiots, all the parts you listed don't exist on a Tundra.

Most likely I'd guess your issue is old tie rods so the steering has slop, since death wobble isn't typically a thing on tundras. The lift probably exaggerated the issue to the point it was obvious. I'd jack it up and wiggle everything.

 

Major Caca they don’t call crapcountry for nothin

 

The tire rods were recently replaced, the truck aligned, new Nitto tires.

 

Tundras can’t get “death wobble”. DW is a phenomenon that occurs on solid front axle vehicles like wranglers or HD dodge trucks. Due to the fixed attachment for some of the angles that a solid axle features, and the steering box, not rack and pinion style steering system, the front tires can sometimes take road inputs and bounce them back and forth across the fixed steering rods attaching the front tires together. How does this apply to your tundra? It doesn’t. You have IFS (independent front suspension) and rack and pinion steering. You’ll have to describe your problem in terms other than “death wobble” since your vehicle can’t have that. Loose suspension components (possible) or out of balance tires (more likely) are potential culprits.

 

This is my boss's sons truck (I will call him J). He purchased the kit and I arranged to have it installed. This started happening immediately after the lift kit was installed. It was installed by a reputable company who had done work on a vehicle for us before. We immediately took it back to the shop and had them redo the alignment. They told us the tires were crap and really worn out. He had recently gone mudding and they told me there was so much mud underneath the truck that it really needed to be cleaned. The underside was caked with mud. He had power washed it but had only gotten the places he could see. I took it and had it cleaned. They were able to get almost all the mud off. At this time we did not replace the tires. I had not experienced the wobble he was describing so I thought the alignment and getting the tires balanced would take care of it. It seemed better but was still doing it occasionally. He was told he was not allowed to go mudding again, he has not. So the wobble never went away and I had never experienced it so I was not accurately able to describe it to a mechanic. There was a blow out with one of the rear tires and the rear tires were replaced with Nitto tires that had been recommended by several people. The truck was due for maintenance and there was a modification he had made to the exhaust he needed repaired. We were also having a key issue. I took it to the dealer and had the keys fixed, took it to a mechanic who is awesome to do the maintenance and a check of anything that needed to be done. They discovered the front tire rods were broken. They were repaired, the truck aligned, the tires rebalanced. It was still wobbling when he drove it. I took it and had the alignment rechecked, replaced the other 2 tires, and had everything rebalanced. I am a very conservative driver with a truck. I had a small truck when I was in college and it would fishtail horribly so I learned to take off slowly. I imagine this kiddo is a much more aggressive driver taking off, I think that might be why he is experiencing this and I have not. So he finally accurately described to me what the truck was actually doing in regards to the wobble he was describing. After looking up what he was describing the death wobble was what I found several articles on. I sent one to J and he said that was exactly what the truck was doing. He told me the kit was from a company called Rough Country. I emailed them to see what they might suggest as a solution. They mechanic we use had not heard of a death wobble in a tundra, jeeps and other trucks but not a toyota. I emailed Rough Country and they said the adjustable track bar and dual steering stabilizers were what they recommended. I have not been able to find them specifically for this truck. I am not sure how to address this issue which is why I am on this forum. I apologize for the verrrryyyyy long description. I really not nothing about the mechanics of truck or cars. I just want this truck to be safe. So, if it cannot be a death wobble and the suggested fix cannot be done on this truck, does anyone have other ideas what it could be and how it can be resolved? I live in the Austin Tx area so if anyone knows someone good who might be able to figure out what is going on, I would appreciate the info.

 

Pictures of the lift on the truck may or may not help. We like them anyway. You’ll have to take this truck to an actual off-road shop to have them shake it down. Either the truck has been damaged during the mudding adventures, the modifications to the suspension, or possibly both. Rough country, as others have eluded to, are really poorly engineered (possibly not engineered at all) lift products. The cheapest of the cheap. Compared to all the other options, RC is crap. You may never be able to make the RC lift perform well. It’s possible it wasn’t installed correctly, although it’s been to several mechanics since then. One would hope they would have caught it then. Broken tie rods? Would take a lot to break a tie rod on these trucks. Like, accident level impact. Or some aggressive off-roading. They just don’t “break”. Wonder what else could be broken.

 

if we want to replace the lift kit, what brand would you all recommend? I can get pictures of the lift later today.

 

The fear would be your 4” RC lift is a drop bracket lift. If so, they may have hacked some of the factory mounts off to install it. Then it’s a lot more work to just change it. Several threads (understatement) on here describing the myriad of lift options available and people’s experience with them.

 

I have an appt on Tuesday at a place that specializes in lifts. Hopefully they will be able to figure out what is going on and a reasonable solution. Since he is not allowed to mud anymore the truck is primary being used on the small farm on the property to pick up hay, straw, and supplies. If we can get this truck fixed we will probably sell it and replace it with a tundra that is better suited to our current need.