Alcon Brake

Just wanted to let everyone know there is a Group Buy going on...model 07 to 22+ check it out in group buys.

 

Highly recommend, 5 stars, would buy again.

 

I always used OEM's in both of my Tundras and they lasted me forever. Why is the Alcon brand a better brand? Just curious? And cost will be a good place to start as well if is a group buy?

 

This is a big brake kit . 6 piston calipers front 4 piston rear. Power stopping power, the rotors are larger and thicker allows harder longer stops more frequently without fade. This isn’t just a rotor pad replacement.


https://alconkits.com/pages/product-result?rq=yr_2018~mk_toyota~md_tundra

 

Nice and thanks partner. But holly smokes, 6K for the kit?

 

Followed by a shit-eating grin every time you stop hard. Hehehehe

 

Not just more pistons, but aren’t they all larger pistons as well? I think they’re 2” diameter. Much larger pads that probably have twice the area of OEM.

They’re fuckin’ yuge.

 

Ok, I didn’t want to clog up the group buy thread asking dumb questions about these brakes, but bear with me and pretend like I’m the simpleton that I am… I have questions.

Is the Alcon brake kit completely bolt on, or does it require anything in addition? It comes with calipers, rotors, pads, hardware (like brake pins), and new brake lines. Any issues with the fittings? I know that’s dumb, but I recall some folks needing to grind a tiny part off the fittings of some stop tech braided lines.

What is the service life like? Yes I know “it depends on usage” but let’s maybe talk in expected percentages. Say my OE pads lasted 130k and my replacement front set have gone 70k, but I had to do the rears at 60k.

When they do need to be serviced, are the rotors usually good to go another round, or do they usually need to be replaced with the pads. I’ve had brake combos that eat pads, eat rotors, or both.

Dust?

I’m sure I have more questions but I’ll stop there.

Oh, forgot to ask vs front only vs front and rear…

 

That is the reason for the Group Buy..10 sets get you 15% off doesn’t matter if you want Fronts only Rears only each pair is counted towards the 10sets.

 

IMHO one doesn't buy big brake kits for longevity. They will last as ong as OEM most likely though. One buys big brake kits for one of two reasons: 1) You are running heavy over size tires and racing and therefore need the larger surface area and fade resistance or 2) You have the coin and think they look cool and who doesn't like cool?

 

Exactly. I did a similar upgrade for my BMW V12 M8 twin Dinan turbos but I had a need for better breaks on this beast

 

Thanks for your opinion. But it doesn’t answer any of the questions I asked…

 

I thought you asked about longevity?

 

For which you opined. Unless you run Alcons or know those who do…

 

Per the bottom of the product site. Also, id look at youtube.


These kits were designed through extensive testing in Alcon’s military and armored program for many years and are an extremely effective and proven platform used worldwide by both NGO and official vehicles. The basis of our newest Ford Raptor and Jeep kits was this research and knowledge.

Benefits

• 45% reduction in brake disc temperature rise
• 42% reduction in pad work rate for longer life and more torque
• 10% less pedal effort
• 10% increase in brake torqu

 

You are correct. I have no direct experience with this kit. Given the nature of your initial inquiry I thought perhaps a bit of background regarding big brake kits might be helpful. If you only want input from those who run this kit I understand. I'll part this thread with only a suggestion - I'd recommend asking for some specifics like what the piston volume differences are so you can calculate a likely needed MC swap. I'd also ask about what if anything should be done about changes to proportioning pressures between back to front.

 

Low dust, and much longer wear. We bet at least 2-3 times more than an Oem set and this is with extreme use. It does bolt in. Only mods needed are to mod the dust shield or removing it. The calipers actually clear better than factory. Brake lines etc included.

 

Yup, what Rey said. We trimmed the backing plate (dust shield) to make room for the larger diameter rotors.

Otherwise, it’s all bolt on. I have a buddy that owns a brake & alignment shop, and he put it all together for me. He was really impressed with the quality and completeness of the kit.

No Ragerts.

 

My primary reason for even considering these is I tow and am planning to tow cross country to Alaska. I have looked at other mfg of BBK kits and they appear to lean towards the look than the performance aspect. I haven't run them because of the buy in....that's why I'm TRYING for this GB.

 

I saw the link and the price is just out of my budget at the moment but thanks for the information.
I will have to put it on my list of things to get.. Lord willing I will get to the brakes later this year.
I like having options and did not know about this brand.

 

How readily available are replacement pads and rotors? Are they a must buy from Alcon or are they available through retailers?

 

Alcon

 

where does everyone work in this forum to get the money for brakes that are made of gold?

 

RETIRED.......I am on a fixed income

 

The corner...

 

I’m a regular fella with a fairly regular job in a niche sector of the construction industry. Like most folks, we budget our money and know wheee it goes. When there is a surplus, it goes in savings and we get to buy things that we don’t normally need.

Here’s how I planned for it…. I was about due for all new brakes at about 120,000 miles. I’d rolled new pads in the front around 85K, but that was before we started towing a lot more.

How much are all new OEM rotors and loaded calipers? I never checked, but I’m sure it’s not too cheap. Let’s say $750? Shit, I dunno…. But, take that amount off the price of the Alcons.

Then, put a value on how you want the truck to perform when you’re towing and need to stop now. Yeah, I’m ready for someone to tell me that I need a bigger truck if I have braking concerns. Priced out a new truck lately??? Well, move some of that cost over to the Alcon budget.

Since the OEM brakes were the only thing that I didn’t feel was up to the task of my towing, why get a bigger truck? I love my Tundra and it does everything I want. Now, it also stops the way I want.

So, are the Alcons really that expensive???


We have no issue dropping $3K on wheels and tires. $1,000 light bars, Yes please. Gears are spendy, as is a good exhaust if you want one. And don’t get me started on superchargers! I can’t get my head (or budget) wrapped around one of those yet…

 

Ain't that the truth...




Consider the supercharger like buying a new truck... but paying much less..

 

Alcon's kit for Tundra is same for LC200, which were originally made and designed for security vehicles, aka armored vehicles, a lot of them were armored up to B7 level.

I don't have personal experience with Alcon, but I've had experience with other similar brake systems design for armored vehicles, the longevity is good, pads are decent, they are more aggressive, but the rotors tend to wear very well.

Also keep in mind these type of brake calipers use ductile iron vs alloy, ductile iron are much more stiffer than alloy and doesn't deform when hit by projectiles, Alcon states if vehicle is sub 4700kg or 10k lbs, use the front kit only.

Do you have photos? I recall there was only 50 Dinan 8

 

Sorry, but no makeup and a very bad hair day It didn't look like this in the last car show

No idea how many are left. This is the last one for the US market that rolled outta factory in 97 and I drove it from Munich to Rotterdam and then ship it into Galveston with about 500 miles on board. I now have 25K miles on it and still smells brand new inside My son is gonna be one lucky SOB as I promised him if he makes Eagle Scout the the V12 is his. Well he made Eagle last year

 

Wow, spent lot of time in the BMW world and E31 is always one of my favorite, I assume it's a CSi due to the turbine wheels?