Another dead tundra

My 23 tundra hybrid died again today. Last time it needed a hybrid inverter. This time who knows. Was driving and got “hybrid malfunction” then 12v charging malfunction, parking brake malfunction and it seemed to be driving fine. Then when I was slowing down it seemed to shift into hybrid mode and died completely. Can’t start it. It’s hard not to start complaining about this truck.

 

Hey there!
Sorry to hear about your troubles. I hope Toyota makes it right.
Are you able to post the details here if it is indeed an engine failure?

https://www.tundras.com/threads/3-4-i-force-engine-failures.121107/page-2

 

Man you got sideswiped by someone after 2 weeks of ownership? That’s the only thing I’m scared of happening on mine. A deer ran out in front of me while on the highway 1 week after I bought mine and idk if it was the truck or me but the brakes saved me from hitting it.

 

That sucks. Hate to hear it. Please keep us updated, OP.

If it does end up getting an engine rebuild (hopefully it’s something less devastating), would you please post details in the thread @Maine TRD PRO linked?

 

"Another Dead Tundra". I think this could stick. Seems unrelated to a main bearing failure. Fingers crossed.

 

I wonder why when something happens to a 3rd generation people run to the forum to vent? Most people would take the truck to the shop and get it looked over and fixed(if possible). Work with the dealership. Social media allows us to go on to a keyboard and tell stories that should sometimes be kept on the personal shelf. If this is an issue that would effect many, then I understand the post. This entire 3rd generation thread has turned into a let me see what is wrong today. My radio is too loud in the truck, the engine smells funny today, the back up camera looked a little fuzzy.

 

Yeah man. He was on his phone or something. Flying up to a red light then realized there were cars stopped in front of him swiped my pass side and did 10k of damage. Parts took forever, and took 6 months to get repaired.

 

I’m obviously bringing it to the dealer. It’s hard not to vent when you’re 80k (Canadian) truck has died twice in a year and you need to get it towed on a flatbed. When you buy a Toyota for reliability. It should be embarrassing to an organization. I love my truck (when it works) and I don’t complain about the little things. But again, when your brand new truck dies multiple times a year, and you have to wait hours for a tow through Toyota, go weeks without a vehicle, and fight to get a Kia forte rental it’s an issue. Not having a truck for weeks will affect my life. I’m currently doing landscaping at my house that will now be on hold, my family camping weekend plans will have to be cancelled. It’s not really a minor inconvenience like my radio knob fell off (which it did, lol)

you have a 24 limited. It’s easy to sit back and criticize people that are frustrated with their subpar product. I hope if you have major issues won’t make a peep anywhere.

 

Believe me I understand your pain. I really feel for you Brother. I hope everything works out for you. I understand the meaning of the post. The meaning of the post is good spirited. I have to take issue with the heading. The "Another Dead Tundra". It is mixed into the bag of see, we have another issue, so let's all pile on! The post will have 500 hits before the end of the day, just because of the name. Individuals that drive everything but a 3rd generation. Most of the posts will not be about the issue, but about how can I pile on to build my self confidence or decision not to buy. So the issue is overlooked. The ability to vent will multiply exponentially.

 

Fair point. Copy that.

 

The bold print above is exactly why everyone is interested in the relatively high failure rates and issues being found in the Gen 3 Tundras. For YEARS we have taken pride in the reliability that Toyota built into the first two generations (i.e. Million Mile Tundras). And I understand that the problems with the Gen 3's are still only affecting a small percentage of Gen 3 Tundra owners, but the fact remains that Toyota Reliability is no longer a given when buying a Tundra. Personally, I am very disappointed in that, because I am proud of my well-built Tundra (a 2020), and while I believe Toyota will eventually make things right for the vast majority of Gen 3 owners with issues, I am disappointed that they have this many issues, some quite significant. And the fact that the most recent publicized issue has severely hurt the resale value of the Gen 3's, to the point where some dealers will not even take a Gen 3 as a trade, is even more disappointing.

 

True this. My buddy has a 22 1794 that he had the engine rebuilt. Took 4 months. He’s promptly trading it in for a 4Runner before they put the new engines in.

I’m also not naive. I know new redesigned vehicles will come with issues. But when it’s been repaired and the same issue comes up it’s disappointing.

 

Oh yeah, guys who wished your bearings failed instead will be in here with a stiffy looking to justify their $20k loss panic trade in for another brand.

personally, I think the resale value will be fine once the remedy comes out, especially on 24+ models. Dealers not accepting trades seems to be isolated to specific dealerships and that will also go away once the remedy is in place. Don’t get me wrong….. would I trust my 2023 engine to be as reliable as my 2014 5.7? No, but I felt that way before the recall anyway. Would I trust it to drive me to California and back tomorrow? 100%

 

A majority of 3rd generation owners are not having this issue. The buy back or resale numbers are not accurate. Every time you ask someone for empirical data dealing with this issue, they refer to a blog post or an email from one or for kicks they say two dealerships. Every truck has issues. Every automobile manufacturer has had issues. The 2nd generation V8 that I loved on my trade in, had issues when it first rolled out. Social media was not a force back then as it is today. So, no one could vent about the issues. What we are doing is making an issue larger that it is on a social media site. If we have 500 people on the blog, and 15 have an issue that is a disparity we cannot overcome. If we have 5000 and 15 have an issue, then the numbers don't add up to so many posts about these so called deal breaker problems.

 

Unfortunate that happened, curious if this is the source/reason of the failed parts going forward ?

 

I wouldn’t think so. It was all cosmetic/body. Nothing mechanical/electrical was replaced or repaired.

 

Two words: 1st amendment. Same reason you felt compelled to vent about him venting.

He's not revealing a secret no one knows about yet, anyway. We get it - you're a 3rd gen owner and wanna protect the sanctity of your purchase, but while the numbers still reflect a very minor percentage of people this is happening to, it still hits like a Mack truck to folks this debacle has affected.

 

You make some good points and I really do hope that all this works out in the long run and we end up with a few million mile Gen 3's.

 

Damn OP..... sorry man... sounds like its been rough on you from multiple angles. Hope this is fixable and something different and not the replacement part failing already. Glad it kept you safe in the accident. Hope your luck turns around.

 

Does 1st amendment apply to Canadians?

 

They don't love freedom in Canada?

Besides, we have a Canadian, TX

 

No. But we can basically say whatever we want as long as it’s not hate speech towards a certain group.

 

I am not an expert, but as a rule I never do any kind of mods to the car's electrical system, you never really know what kind of impact it may have on the whole thing, but to each their own.

 

Where is Canada again? LOL

 

AWWW MAN!!! a bird shit down the side of my drivers door!!!

 

I feel your pain, OP. I've had no shortage of Toyota and Lexus products over the years and they've generally served me well. My opinion has been that if Toyota wants us to pay a premium for their product and also expects us to accept less capability as a trade off for better reliability/durability, they need to deliver. I'll be in the market for another truck next year and at this point, I'm leaning towards a HD or SD with the oldest tech I can find. Until I see a bunch of gen 3s that have been towing a lot rolling over 150K with relatively few powertrain issues, I'll be on the sidelines for the new Tundra. If what's in dealer stock near me is any indication, Toyota is likely to have to offer even steeper discounts to move the 24s.

 

I didn’t buy a Tundra for a whole host of other reasons that had nothing to do with reliability, and definitely would not have bought the hybrid, but reading these posts certainly makes me feel better about my decision

I still hang around though because I would love to have a Lexus GX550 or LX600 in my garage someday and both have the same powertrain as the Tundra. It’s a lot easier to find info here than about LX600’s that they sell 10 copies of a year

 

Hey, this is no joke! Birds love my CSM Tundra. I have never had a vehicle bombed more than this one, and they're massive. House, work, wherever. I read about all about potential issues like wind noise, seized engines, rattles, tire wear, volume buttons, etc....but nobody warned me my 3rd Gen would be target practice for the birds. Luckily they only hit the door handles 87% of the time.

 

That going to be a rude awakening…I can’t think of a more outdated platform that somehow still costs $50k. I totally get the frustration, but that sounds like a massive over correction!