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Best Brake set up

Discussion in '2.5 Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by tja1080, Jun 29, 2022.

  1. Jun 29, 2022 at 8:08 AM
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    Looking to replace pads and rotors before going with bigger tires, 35x12.5... seems there are a ton of options. Have previous experience with Powerstop on my wife's Lexus IS350.... I don't tow anything....

    Any recommendations/reviews would be greatly appreciated...

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Jun 29, 2022 at 8:12 AM
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    cryto treated rotors, I prefer standard cryto treated vs slotted/drilled. Then your choice of pads, EBC, Hawk, Akebono and other good pads are available.
     
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  4. Jun 29, 2022 at 10:10 AM
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    Thoughts on these?

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    OEM will provide the longest life, quietest operation, with least amount of brake dust.
     
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    The Z36 stuff has been discussed before. Personally, I can't wait to get them off the truck and go to something else.
     
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    Cryo rotors with EBC yellows. Slightly noisy but great bite. I'll be moving to a full Alcon bbk kit for true performance
     
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    people have had issues with powerstop. Again I would skip drilled and slotted for a truck. People have liked the kits by stoptech.
     
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  9. Jun 29, 2022 at 1:21 PM
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    Thanks the input. Going with OEM this time around
     
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    which of the cyro rotors do you recommend? will the non slotted or drilled be quieter?
     
  11. Jun 29, 2022 at 2:26 PM
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    I'd say stop tech. The noise is more of the pad some use the less aggressive ebc pad I believe green.
     
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    Wow now that's probably the only way you are going to significantly improve over the OEM stuff. You gotta pay to play though at $4800 https://alconkits.com/heavy-duty-truck-brakes/toyota-tundra. I would be interested in seeing an install and a braking comparison with these. Not that I would ever be able to justify that but they look sweet.
     
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    It's a massive difference. We did it on the old mans truck and I can say the brakes are the most impressive thing on the truck. It stops haarrddd. Not only the performance but the fact it comes with a rear kit and all this fits under 17" wheel was a plus.

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    Thats awesome. My biggest concern would be it seems your only option for pads and rotors is now through them which a set of front pads alone seems to be almost 400. Which hey if you have that niche market and the only company offering such equipment obviously you need to charge a premium since Im sure with them its about quality and not quantity and they are not flying off the shelves. This is the first I've looked into them so I don't know how big of a business it is but I'd be nervous about if they ever went under if its a smaller outfit, you dont have a way to get replacement pads and rotors anymore unless of course they use a generic size from other vehicles which would be great but I have no idea as I've only spent a little time looking into them.
     
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    Alcon was the “big brake” option supplier for the first generation Roush Mustangs back in the late 90’s so they’ve been around for a while. Roush later switched to StopTech supplied 4 and 6 piston brakes.
     
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    Alcon also supplies OEM, that shape is very common so you can buy them rather easy, a good chunk of armored vehicles out there use Alcon, their 70 series bbk is probably mostly common used brake kits for upfitters world wide.

    I have the stock size rotors kit, good kit, I would recommend them.
     
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    They’re robust pads and we don’t anticipate going through many if any to be honest. After some hard runs and Baja the rotors barely have the initial machining off. As mentioned Alcons been around for a long time they’re not going anywhere.
     
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    Do anyone make just a bracket and bigger disc opinion? I know SSBC use to do a bracket and bigger rotor that still used the OEM calipers. I used them in my Silverado SS and it made a big difference.
     
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    I think some tried to look into it, problem is once you add spacers to the stock calipers, you'll need nearly 390/400mm rotors, which means only 20" + wheels will work.
     
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    The Stop Tech has a 354mm, it’s a big break kit and fits under a 18” wheel. Be nice if Stop Tech offered a bracket and rotor only kit. I think our 4 piston calipers are good enough.
     
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    Factory front rotors are 354mm rotors, the rotors you get is oe replacement from centric/stoptech, the oe calipers is decent, the stoptech pads are larger by good portion and the clamp force does increase by around 15%, factory caliper exert around 35 to 40kn, where st60 is around 45 to 48kn.
     
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    I was looking at the site mentioned above(sos). I saw that the kit had a bracket and new caliper. Description said 354 so I figured it was bigger than stock. So $2300 just to get 6 piston calipers, wow. No thanks.
     
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    My 2020 Tundra Crewmax platinum Rotors shimmy after a stop and go ,& I only have 14,500 miles . This is very annoying and makes mw nervous at the same time .
    I am very interested in upgrading the brakes as I plan to keep my Tundra long time .
    Which kit shall I go with ? Stoptech https://sosperformance.com/products...018-toyota-tundra-tr-dot-380-dot-r6-dot-d-tu7
    Or Alcon https://alconkits.com/heavy-duty-truck-brakes/toyota-tundra.

    Or is there a Toyota TRD 6 piston kit available for the 2020 Tundra's ?
     
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    On my 2014 I went with Brembo blanks and EBC pads when I did the front and went Toyota everything on the rear. Those went on around 90k miles.

    I’ve put about 60k miles on that setup and I have warped rotors again with shaking when braking from certain speeds. Every Toyota truck I have had warped it’s rotors. Truck currently has 155k miles.

    I think I am going to try cryo treated rotors next and EBC pads and see if that helps at all. I tow a bass boat in the summer which doesn’t help but it’s well within the capability of the truck.
     
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    Alcon is my recommendation hands down just from first hand experience.
     
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    Good big brakes aren't cheap, cheap big brakes aren't good, it's worth it to me, but you can achieve 70% of the performance for 1/6 of the costs, a good set of pads will do more than what most realize.

    Stoptech ST60-380 kit:
    pros = It's a stoptech, so caliper parts are just about everywhere, as they use similar components as Brembo/AP Racing and various others, piston seals, dust boots are cheap, just about any shop can rebuild one, ST60/65 pads are very commonly used so lots of compounds to choose from, and it's forged alloy calipers so its rather light.

    cons = 380mm rotors is a StopTech only item, if you need rotors, you must buy from Stoptech or SOS, also the 380mm rotors limit wheel choices.

    Alcon
    Pros = it's actually close to stock rotors, I believe you can use OE rotors as replacement, this kit is used on a lot of armored land cruisers so it has great reputation being stout, the calipers I believe it's steel base so it can take a beating (or a bullet).

    Cons = Alcon pads is slightly different from ST60/65, in emergency I've seen guys just grind the pads to fit, the calipers are heavy.

    I was at the right time and right place when I bought the StopTech, but if Alcon was at the same price, I would've taken that too, both are good choice.
     
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    Also the Alcon kit has the rear bbk setup included. Many overlook this. Alcon also fits within a 17" wheel they actually have more clearance than the stock rotors.
     
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    Looking for an all-around brake kit...no interest in going big brakes or anything fancy, in fact just trying to find some regular OEM-style replacements, preferable cryo-treated. Had been looking at the Powerstop kits, but reading about the Stoptech here, it seems like they may be a better option? I'm unfortunately not finding just a simple non-slotted/drilled kit option anywhere? Any recos on where to buy? The Stoptech website seems to show that they do make them, but half the pictures don't work and it doesn't appear they sell them via their own website...
     
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    I have a 2012 TRD rock warrior. I am also looking for good stock brake set. Towing, hauling, city driving and a little bit of dirt too. Prefer slotted or drilled rotors. Need calipers as well. I want to get rid of the soft pedal. Open to buying calipers separately. Main thing is high quality, better performance and longevity before needing replacement.
     

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