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Brakes squeaking at 400 miles.

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by arkhomer, Jul 21, 2023.

  1. Jul 21, 2023 at 5:33 AM
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    That's disappointing. I've never had great luck with Toyota brakes, but at 400 miles??
     
  2. Jul 21, 2023 at 5:43 AM
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    Being this is my first new vehicle, I didn't even know bedding them in was a thing. Thanks for sharing.
     
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  3. Sep 1, 2023 at 9:42 AM
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    Brakes squealing every morning when backing up and randomly squealing when applying the brakes as I come to a stop. Is that normal? I have owned a first gen 07, 2nd gen 12,15,19 and now a 3rd gen 2023,. Never have I had this problem with the previous tundra's that i have owned. They were all the platinum additions. Is this normal for them to always squeal in this year model. It is very annoying.
     
  4. Sep 1, 2023 at 9:47 AM
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    Mine haven't squealed, so far, in just under 3000 miles.

     
  5. Sep 1, 2023 at 9:52 AM
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    Mine did the same, it comes and goes, and stop squeaking now at 5k. I thought this was ok during the break in
     
  6. Sep 1, 2023 at 9:54 AM
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    Ceramic brakes (pretty much all they use now) can be bad about the squeaks.
     
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  7. Sep 1, 2023 at 10:07 AM
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    Use them harder, keeps the pads from glazing which is what causes the squeal.
     
  8. Sep 1, 2023 at 10:12 AM
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    I don't understand the issue. The sound of the squealing brake gives you the impression that you need new brakes. The noise is not a grind it's sounds like a loud whistle. It is metal on metal squealing screeching noise. I thought the same thing that it was just a matter of time to brake it in. I have 6500 miles on it and noise will not go away. Dealership said that they are aware of the noise and don't know yet on how to correct it. They are not sure if Toyota is going to do a recall to replace the rotor, brake pads, or calipers. I thinking with all these options that could be possibly wrong with the system they don't want to place pieces at a time it would cost to much. I asked then for them to replace the entire system and replace all of the above. They said they could not do that because Toyota has to make that call. So now i have to drive my brand new vehicle like this. It is frustrating dealing with these people. I contemplating what course of action to take against Toyota. Anyone have suggestions on how I should proceed?
     
  9. Sep 1, 2023 at 10:21 AM
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    Did you get in there and take a look to make sure nothing is rubbing? Like a backing plate or anything?
     
  10. Sep 1, 2023 at 11:40 AM
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    Luckily mine still quiet at 9,000 miles. But I did just hear the most horrendous squeal from a Tesla in reverse as some clown was parallel parking it. LOL.
     
  11. Oct 26, 2023 at 3:05 PM
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    I have a 2023 Tundra since Nov 2023. Brakes started squealing in the morning within a month. I took it in to the dealership where they resurfaced front rotors and replace front brake pads. A month later it (the squeal) returned. I took it back again when My dealer told me the same thing as some say above: “ Toyota knows about it and is working in a fix”. Well that was over 7 months ago and no joy! . Meanwhile , today I call Toyota customer care at 1-800-331-4331 to check on the status of “the fix”and they know nothing about a fix in the works! In fact the customer rep gave me a case number and told me if they get enough complaints they will issue a customer fix! So I encourage anyone having problems to call the 1800 number above. You would think feedback from the dealerships would be enough but apparently not so. I’m furious! You pay this kind of money for a vehicle and get this! As a long time Toyota customer I’m about to proclaim this as my LAST Toyota if a fix doesn’t occur soon. It is quite embarrassing to drive a 60 plus thousand dollar truck amd deal with this nonsense every morning (or even after it sits a while most days) and you would think Toyota would want it fixed for the BAD advertisement prospective customers see and “hear” with their own eyes and ears as I drive by but not so! Signed long time Toyota customer who is disgusted!

    BTW, FYI, I did try “bedding”my brakes as suggested on another post. It went away for a three days but has returned, although not as bad “grinding noise” yet, that I have gotten from time to time before. But Issupect it will get worse and worse as before again. Because that’s the way the initial problem started both times, with a slight squeal.
     
  12. Oct 27, 2023 at 12:43 AM
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    I'm at 17000 miles and mine squeal every now and then. I don't have a problem with it. Not enough for me want to take time out of my day to go ask them about it. Knowing I want get anything out of it but a song and a dance.
     
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  13. Oct 27, 2023 at 6:22 AM
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    The squeaking is not normal even for ceramic brakes. Ceramic usually only squeaks until they warm up then normal. Mines squeak all day everyday. It's almost time for me to change the brakes so we'll see
     
  14. Oct 27, 2023 at 6:28 AM
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    My 23 Tundra has never done it. My 23 Sequoia has done it from almost day one. Got both about a year ago. Dealership said the same thing, Toyota is working on a fix. They said it’s really common on the Tundras but our Sequoia was the first they’d seen with the issue.
     
  15. Oct 27, 2023 at 9:47 AM
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    My 22 squeaks backing out of the garage Every single time and never again.. Not concerned but only vehicle I have had that does it
     
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  16. Oct 28, 2023 at 6:39 PM
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    22,000 miles, and mine are still doing it. Dealer has inspected twice. They tell me that Toyota is aware of it and are working on a fix. This is total BS for a $60,000 truck
     
  17. Dec 1, 2023 at 7:54 AM
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    I’m in the same boat here guys. Got my 2023 tundra limited back in August and squealing started within two months. Thought it was dirt due to me being in construction but now I’m hearing this is happening a LOT. It’s very annoying and shouldn’t be happening. Honestly it’s unacceptable and they need to figure out a solution asap.
     
  18. Dec 1, 2023 at 10:31 AM
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    Like I mentioned above, I bedded my brakes and the grinding and squealing went away for around a week. I am familiar with the bedding process since I do it in my airplane after I change brake pads on it. Though I do it on my airplane for a different reason: to actually increase the stopping power by setting the pad in. So before reading about my problems on the forums I didn’t think it would help with the eliminating the squeal, but it did, albeit only temporarily. I keep calling the 1800 number and am now waiting for a “tier 2” customer service representative to call me back (supposedly 3-5 days). We shall see.
    The ironic thing about all this is my 2002 Tundra NEVER HAD A PROBLEM LIKE THIS. I gave it to my brother a coup,e of years ago and he still has it and loves it! Runs like a clock with almost 200k and NO grinding squeal when he brakes. Go figure. Toyota is going backwards in the quality and communication department. And what a shame that is.
     
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    My brakes haven't squeaked once in 8000 miles. In fact, my truck has basically been flawless, so far. I hope you get a resolve.

    Matt
     
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    Only in the morning. Fine after 1 mile of driving. 37k on truck.
     
  21. Dec 1, 2023 at 12:11 PM
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    Seems some people have no problems with the 2022/2023 Tundra brakes , others have had chronic problems like myself. Between my wife and I, we have been loyal Toyota customers for most of the last 40 years. Never had anything like this. Very disappointed in Toyota. I guess since everyone does not have the problem, they are not taking the problem seriously. But one thing is for sure: if you have the problem it’s a 100% for you! And they don’t seem to have an answer for what one would think would be a simple fix. I don’t know if they are making the North American Tundras in different plants but if they are, maybe there is a problem with a certain plant. Who knows? All I know is that in my neighborhood no one is buying a new Tundra after hearing me rival the school buses and garbage trucks (for brake noise) the last year with my grinding/squealing noise the first 3-5 stop signs every day! although for me it’s not funny. I literally have had neighbors put their fingers in their ears if I choose to stop and talk to them on my way out the neighborhood. Yes it is that bad!
     
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    This. People on the side walks cover their ears too when I am in city traffic. This is the most embarrassing vehicle I have ever driven. Been to dealership multiple times, called corp, they aren't doing a thing. They are "aware" of the problem and "working" on a "fix". They have been saying this for a year and a half.
     
  23. Jan 12, 2024 at 7:50 PM
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    2023 Tundra Limited has been squeaking since the first few weeks after purchasing it. It’s so frustrating and embarrassing. Dealership won’t even touch it and Toyota won’t respond to my emails. Thinking of taking legal action against Toyota for their lack of action. Definitely won’t recommend the truck and hope everyone hears the squeaky breaks so that no one buys one. Worst truck I’ve owned.
     
  24. Jan 13, 2024 at 4:40 AM
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    Since most of us have no issues with our brakes it may just be some bad sets of pads sprinkled around the Tundraverse. If I were you guys for whom Toyota is not helping... and I'm not, for which I am eternally grateful (old HS physics teacher used this line on us all the time)... I would just cut my losses. Get some quality brake pads and swap them out, making sure to scuff the rotors a bit with some sandpaper to remove some of the old material. I have had really great luck with EBC pads for being quiet and trouble free and these have fixed squealing problems for me in the past. I know, Toyota should make this right but spending a couple hundred $ on brakes isn't the end of the world when you have a brand new $60,000 truck. The question you need to ask yourself: Is fighting them for months to maybe save a few $ worth the aggravation?
     
  25. Jan 13, 2024 at 6:21 PM
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    Thanks for the discussion. And I hear where you’re coming from. But I take a different viewpoint. I sent a complaint to my state attorney general. They are going to get in touch with Toyota. We will see where it goes from there. For me, It’s the principle. The principle that a manufacturer or supplier of goods should stand behind the product they sold to the customer. This has opened my eyes to Toyota customer care. And it’s not a good view! What else are they going to give me the run-around on if I have some other problem. As a matter of fact I presently have software problems that “they know about too”. (Mainly an annoying problem telling me to reset a PIN code 20 times per every hour of driving.) I have not pursued that as aggressively figuring sometime this year they will come out with a software fix. (Sarcasm). I’ve Had the software problem since October. But You nailed it when you emphasized it’s a 60 thousand dollar truck I just bought from them that is malfunctioning. With the emphasis On 60 thousand dollars! And yes, I’ll eventually replace the pads if I keep hitting a brick wall with these people. I even have a brand of pads I’m considering after reading these forums. I just changed my brakes on my airplane a month or so back. The fact is I have been doing things like this since I was a teenager (going on 50 years); on cars, motorcycles, and airplanes. But the reason I bought a new truck is to not have to worry about the maintenance for a few years on my personal vehicle. I’ve only been waiting because I didn’t want to invalidate my warranty and I wanted to be able to say to Toyota that “Toyota maintenance is the only hands that have been on this truck” when they tell me it’s the after market pads I put on that must be causing the problem if my pads don’t fix it. One person on here claims it is the front wheel bearing and it fixed his problem. Once I start changing out parts, how much should I put in to my 60 thousand dollar Truck under warranty before I throw in the towel. Pads, rotors, bearings? At this point after the sale that’s the manufacturer’s job IMHO. To add insult to injury I bought the Toyota extended warranty plan as a loyal 40 year customer. All I can say is Caveat Emptor with Toyota brand now days. And wherever I go and when people are within earshot of me after hearing my brakes squeal/grind like a dump truck I tell them don’t buy one. Of course I use plain english to drive the point home. The main problem Toyota has is not the physical problem. I understand more than most actually that things happen and this particular problem can be eventuality overcome. My alarm is the greater one: it’s a customer care problem! They basically blow off your concerns at the national office. As a side note, today I was at my local airport and a guy came over to my hangar with an older model Tundra (like I use to have) and asked to see the plane I built and my truck. I told him my story and recommended not to purchase one. “You might get a good one , you might get a bad one. But the most important thing is you won’t get good customer care in 2024, period if you do have a problem.” The most import part! My two cents.
     
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    Wanted to update on my brake squeal grind problem. As I may have previously noted I file a consumer complaint with my state’s attorney general’s office (Louisiana). A couple of months later Toyota rep called me back after talking with my AG’s office. They set up an inspection time at the local dealer for their company FTS rep to come inspect my vehicle. I left it there for a day and they supplied a rent-a-car, so the inspector would get the vehicle cold in the morning when the problem occurs the most often. The FTS duplicated my problem. The guys at the local dealership confirmed it! When I asked they said oh yeah! Multiple times! Everyone could hear it! . The FTS wrote up some sort of engineering report where he measured and documented a bunch of stuff. I was not given the report. About three weeks ago, I got tired of waiting so I re-engaged with Toyota to ask about a status. The Toyota point of contact came back within a day and said there was a fix out and she confirmed with the FTS that the fix applied to my vehicle. The fix was to change both front brake rotors and pads. I could not get any info as to whether these parts are a new type pad, or rotor, or both. I’ve had the truck back around two weeks with no recurrence of the problem. I will note that both times the problem didn’t start until a month later, (both after the initial purchase and the first attempt by the dealer to fix the problem (by replacing the front brake pads only). I will keep everyone informed as time goes on from here on out.
     
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    Mine squeal loudly every morning backing up. Started at around 2500 miles. It mostly goes away once warm. I haven't given it much attention as it's a low priority on the LONG list of problems I have with my 2024.
     
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    I’ve known people with Ford and dodge trucks that had similar but much milder (1st thing in the morning) squeal problems. My squeal was more than a squeal, more like a grinding ear piercing metallic squeal.
    If mine did it just backing out the driveway in the morning it would be not much of a problem to me. Maybe a little annoying.
    But although mine would do it mainly in the morning, ( it did it for the first 5-7 stops out the gate). It also did it plenty throughout the day if it sat for around an hour or so.
    I did give people a lot of laughs.
    The joke in my neighborhood was when the neighbors heard the noise (from inside their houses) and it wasn’t Trash day it had to be Randy’s Toyota Tundra!
    My friends at the small airport where I fly thought it was hilarious and reminded me they wouldn’t be buying a Tundra as I brought them along on my journey dealing with big Toyota customer service.
    The drive-through McDonalds where I usually to get my coffee in the morning would put their fingers in their ears. It was all in good fun. But still, I wished I wasn’t the one who owned the Tundra!
    In the end it took a complaint to my state’s AG to get action. And as a 40 year loyal customer of Toyota that was the sad part.
    The problem occurred at slow speeds, think fast-food drive up lanes and neighborhoods with a speed limit of 15mph or less.
    Last year I turned heads outside for a continuous city block during slow moving traffic at an outdoor Christmas celebration. It was a squeal with a grinding sound (think dump truck or garbage truck stopping) element to it!
    More than one perfect stranger came up to me and felt the need to inform me I needed brakes on my truck during the time I dealt with this.
    And I am sure happy it is fixed! So far so good! I’ll keep everyone posted. Two weeks, so far so good!
     
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    @Ranman926 did you ever receive anything in writing that others can share with their local dealerships to show this is an issue that was fixed by Toyota with new pads and discs? I had this issue very soon after I bought my truck in 2023. I never thought to look it up until now and I found this thread. I let my wife use my truck when it had about 10k miles on it, and she rode through a drive through safari with some family and she was scaring the animals away since she was driving along at the slow speed riding the brakes that was resulting in those really loud squeals. Silly and embarrassing for a new truck to make noises like that. I think I learned to brake differently on the road, so I dont get those squeals much anymore myself, but in drive through lanes I still get some loud squeals occasionally. Now have 26k miles on my truck and I was just going to get new brake pads to fix it myself ... until I saw this thread. I thought since the warranty excluded brake pads this would not be fixed by Toyota. It may be too late for me to get Toyota to fix it, but if there is a precedent that is documented that I could share with my local dealership hopefully that would encourage them to fix it. I mentioned it to a tech in the past when I had maintenance done, but he just said their would be a diagnostic fee if they looked at it, so I passed and figured I'd just replace the pads myself.
     
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    Yes, they put a kit in it ( new front rotors along with a different part numbered brake pad than they had in it originally). There is a cause code Toyota Service Bulletin TSB-0043-24. ( see attached photo of service record. It has the part numbers for the front pads and rotors that were changed)

    There was no cost. I bought my 23 Tundra in Nov 2022.
    Toyota finally fixed it in May 2024. No problems since, not even once. I did notice the part number ( see attached photo) was different than the original brake pad they put on during their 1st attempt to fix it.


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