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Can add a lift with Load-Leveling Rear Height Control Air Suspension

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by ScootARoot, Oct 14, 2023.

  1. Oct 14, 2023 at 4:34 PM
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    I'm not seeing much information about adding a lift with the Load Level Suspension and wondering if I can add a lift or not?

    Would the TRD Lift Kit fit? Or is it not possible?

    I have a '23 Limited 4x4 with the Load Level Air Suspension
     
  2. Oct 14, 2023 at 6:03 PM
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    Turns out there are very limited options.
    1. Get a lift kit and remove all of the Air Ride Suspension components - seems a bit of a stretch
    2. Get this kit https://www.readylift.com/3-sst-lif...he all-new 3” SST,of the air-equipped trucks.
      1. Has anyone installed a kit from there, or have any input? I could always add different shocks up front.
    Not going to do serious off-roading, but mainly forest roads and would like a bit of a lift to get larger tires for a for more ground clearance
     
  3. Oct 14, 2023 at 6:46 PM
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    I have same suspension as you and Westcott Design is the only company I know of that makes a lift for our air suspension truck. They make an extended adjustment arm for the rear height control that raises the back. Then they use their standard lift for the front. There may be pan hard rods or other parts that need to be changed in the rear to keep the axle positioned correctly. Here is their number (480) 750-8747. They are in Arizona. Hope it works out for you.
     
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    Thanks for sharing with me. Have you installed this, or just know about it and sharing? I'm sure it's fairly easy. I'll give them a call next week
     
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    Thanks for finding that video. The only thing I found was a 6" lift from Rough Country, and that is a bit more lift than I'm wanting to use
     
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    Glad I could help. If I put a lift on mine this one is perfect for me. A little more aggressive stance and room for larger tires.
     
  8. Oct 15, 2023 at 3:32 AM
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    I have the readylift 2" level on my truck ,23 limited 4x4 with factory air in the rear. It took about 5-6hours to install. It has a spacer and a bunch of brackets for the rear, its just a spacer for the front. Im going to do suspension on the front after i put my bumper and winch on. Im running 315/70/17.
     
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    There is a member here who put the trd lift on with bags.
     
  10. Oct 15, 2023 at 6:17 AM
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    Nice, that isn't terrible time to install. There are a lot of components to adjust and get back in place. It took me ~10-12 hours to install a lift on my Tacoma.

    I'm like you, I'm probably going to go with this kit (the Readylift or Wescott) then a suspension in the front. Do you know what front suspension you're going to go with?
     
  11. Oct 15, 2023 at 6:21 AM
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    Do you know who that member is? I would love to read a thread if they made one about how they did the install.
     
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    I've got a 2023 SR5 w/ rear air suspension. I did a full lift kit and combined two kits. I did a Icon stage 4 kit (front coilovers/upper control arms, rear shocks) and I also got the Readylift 2" level kit but only installed the rear bag components! Sold the front spacers pretty easily to make back some of the cost.
    The reason I did this is, based off my simple thought process so not scientific at all, but I felt like just simply adjusting the rear air bag position sensor was only going to keep bags inflated more than they needed to be, and also potentially limit adjustments if towing something heavy? If that makes any sense. Doing the spacer kit in my mind allows it to retain somewhat "factory" ride as far as bag pressure goes, and allow it to go up or down the maximum intended amount!
    Here's some pics!
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    This is lovely! Answers all of my questions. Thank you :thumbsup: Also, really like the setup you have too, looks great!

    Did this change any of the ride quality? I don't plan on 'Off-roading' :bikewhoops:, but doing some forest service roads to do some camping, and lifting to mainly get the appearance i want.
     
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    Overall, I'd say ride quality improved. Feels a bit more planted and firm to the ground. It's hard to say because these Toyo Open Country RT's I got are 12 plys (Only one Toyo offers for 35x12.5r18) so that definitely stiffened it up a bit! But overall I'd say it still feels great and rides very nice!
     
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    Good to hear!
    Quick question, did you install the lift yourself? I've installed a lift on our '21 Tacoma, but doing so on the Tundra seems like more of a chore with more connections/components up front. Might just take several more hours to do the install, but almost straight forward?
     
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    Yep did it all by myself! Not bad at all! Front was same simple concept as the Tacomas, I've done a few of those myself. Only thing that I recall was different is having to unclip and pull one of the computer modules on the driver side engine bay. Not hard or complicated, just has to move out of the way to get the long UCA bolt out haha. Rear was a bit more work but that's just because I hadn't done stuff with the air bags before. You'll have to pop the airline out of the compressor for each bag so they can be deflated, the compressor is on the passenger side behind the rear tire. Not hard at all, I just used two small flatheads! Other than that it's just installing various brackets and such. Their installation instructions were great though, lots of pictures!
     
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    Super helpful, thanks again! I was looking for the compressor last night actually, now I know exactly where to look. It's nice to know it's very similar to the Tacoma, just bigger. Good call on the computer clip.

    It will be a while before we start, but good knowing this before diving into it. I'll try to make some posts of everything as I do them. Your setup is exactly what I was hoping can be done
     
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    I’m new here and Ben looking for options to lift my 2023 limited crew max with AV suspension 4x4. This sounds like a great setup. Have couple questions. Do you have any issues with the regular front axles? I’ve seen a lot of the kits require the TRD red axles up front.
    Did you get any codes thrown with the AV suspension since you lifted?
     
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    Just an FYI...AVS is not load leveling...AVS refers to the electronically adjusted shocks. I just did the same thing on my 2wd (Load leveling with AVS) with the same kit, no codes
     
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    Thank you. How would I know which do I have. I see bags under on the rear. Or would I have to run the VIN to make sure
     
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    AVS trucks will have a wiring harness going to the shock/strut. Rear shocks have the wiring at the bottom...struts have the wire coming out the top
     
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    Thank you. I’ll crawl under my truck to take a closer look
     
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    This looks really good and the cleanest amount of lift and tires. is that a 2" in the front that you gained with the ICON stage 4? what about the rear? 1 or 2" of lift in the rear? I have the same rear load leveling suspension on my 2022 long bed.
     

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