Can you confirm the difference? Gas Pedal

Hi,

According to this https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2010/RCMN-10V017-7634.pdf the replacement gas pedal is 04000-0430C. However, this pedal is now superceeded by 04000-0440C. What is the pedal foot pad length of the -0440C? What is the pedal foot pad length of the -0430C? I think the difference between the two parts is the pedal length. I need a new one and would like a new one that still has the original pedal length if this is possible.

Thanks.

Note: edited for clarity. Edited again to add "foot pad" for even more clarity.

 

I replaced mine with 04000-0440C and it works great. The extra pedal makes it easier for me to smoothly accelerate. It was $40.87 with tax and shipping.

The only way the original Toyota could have stuck was either they had too many mats, or they floored it trying to get the wimpy Prius to move and stuck the pedal. I asked my 10 year old granddaughter, What would you do if the pedal stuck while you are driving a car? She said, "Turn the key off!". So it appears that my granddaughter is smarter than a Prius driver. LOL

https://toyotaparts.mcgeorgetoyota.com/oem-parts/toyota-pedal-assy-accelerat-040000440c

 

@Failure2comply I guess I could have also asked: What is the length of the foot pad on the -0440C? If it's the same length as the original 4"? (pre warranty cut-off) then that also answers my question. From your description it sounds like this may be the case. How long is the foot pad on yours? Mine is 3 1/8".

I have read through the other posts on the gas pedal. When I bought my truck it had just received both of the warranty work items on the gas pedal (install shim and cut off a bunch of the pedal). Inside the assembly is a mechanism that provides friction when you are depressing the pedal (not the spring). The shim alleviates friction on this mechanism (you can see it if you pop off the metal plate on the side of the pedal). However, on mine the shim 100% negated the function of this friction device and caused it to be very jerky as others have described. After removing the shim there is too much friction. Although it has plenty of pressure to return to the resting position (form the spring), it doesn't do that smoothly.

 

It appears this might be a software issue, more than the actual accelerator shim/pedal fix. This is a DBW application and the recall came with a software package in addition to chopping your pedal and adding more hardware. I still have the original one pedal, and I've declined all 3 of these items and I don't have any jerkiness, acceleration/deceleration issues nor sticking whatsoever. The only issue I've encountered under the dash is my brake pedal's grease has worn out and it squeaks every now and then.

 

@blackdemon_tt There is definitely something wrong with mine. I wanted to try and ascertain if I can get a new one that has the longer pedal length and wouldn't otherwise be subject to recall (2011+).

 

It very well may work, but again if its a software issue, it'll be the exact same result. When I asked about the software change, they stated it would pretty much cut the power from the engine especially when the brake was engaged in order to curtail the "sudden acceleration." So my gears turning asked, so..... no more burnouts??? nah, I'm good, LOL.... I don't do burnouts, but just in case I get the itch some day.... its there...

 

I'm sure @Roman can answer your question.

 

Thanks @Jim LE 1301 hopefully he will chime in at some point.

 

But the Prius doesn’t use a key! : )

 

My '07 is the first vehicle that I've owned with a drive by wire pedal. I really don't like the feel of the pedal. It's probably still original since I didn't see any record of the recall. Maybe the new pedal has a more realistic feel?

 

I replaced the pedal in my 07 with the 04000-0440C, and it worked fine. I did not measure either but they were the same length.
Understood the new one to be different electrically (resistance or Impedance) to ECM, that smoothed out acceleration.

 

Does the new pedal eliminate the lurch when when starting off. It took a lot of practice to accelerate more gently.

 

Yes.

 

Much smoother acceleration.

 

Get the 04000-0440C $40ish not too much of a chance to take.
Betting you will be happy with it.

 

I have a new one in box - opened but never installed because I was looking to do this “mod” and I already had the better pedal installed. Takes 30 seconds to change pedal.
Pm me- I’ll let it go for $25 and cover the shipping if it’s not too much more.

 

@surffj62 Thanks for the offer. I have an appointment on Friday at the dealer for a couple other things and their parts mgr said he will have them replace it for free.

Update: dealer replaced the pedal for free. It is much better now. Not as nice as my 03 4runner though (also drive by wire but feels like a good old fashioned pedal).

 

How can I tell if I have the better unit? My truck is a 2011 and it is very difficult to start out smoothly.

 

I bought surffj62's pedal and it definitely starts off smoother. Two 10mm nuts and a plug are all you remove. It took me longer to find my 10mm socket than it did to the whole swap. I bet it's probably the easiest thing to change on the whole truck.

 

What year Toyota did the dealer replace it in for free?

 

Sounds like it's the older unit. $40-50 and about 3 minutes is s an easy try.

 

Think he got lucky. Haven't heard of many free replacements. The dealers were modifying the pedals for a while that were somewhat improved.

 

@SouthWestGA It's an 07. Basically, if you have just gotten the pedal mod warranty work done and it doesn't feel right to the customer, the warranty instructions call for replacing the pedal. It was a little interesting in my case because the non-yota dealer I bought the truck a few months ago had taken it to a Toyota dealer further from my home for the outstanding warranties. I didn't want to drive 20 miles each way for a $40 part I could replace very easy. I was going to just buy the part from @surffj62 or the dealer near my home depending on their price... and the parts guys became interested in my story and took care of it form me. Also probably helped that I do have a little history using this dealer for parts and service.

 

@bleach Your pedal would precede both of the numbers I mentioned at the top of the thread. Inside the pedal there is a spring to return the pedal, but there is also a friction device so that their is back pressure on the pedal as you depress it (which would normally be provided by the throttle assembly on a cable style accelerator). The warranty mod is supposed to relieve pressure on the friction device which can bind and become jerky (not enough to get stuck though!). I am guessing that after 2010 they changed the materials and/or design of the friction device.

 

I was inquiring after my wife’s 2008 Sequoia. Her pedal sometimes feels jerky like a jet rocket.