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Changing oil filter without changing oil

Discussion in '2.5 Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by TTund16, Apr 21, 2020.

  1. Apr 21, 2020 at 8:35 PM
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    TTund16

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    Has anyone ever done this?

    a friend with a new Tundra asked me that question. He wants to change the filter of his new truck at 500 miles but not the oil.

    Without getting into pros and cons of it and why he wants to do that ... He was wondering if lots of oil will be gushing out of not.

    I've never changed any filter on any car without changing the oil. Meaning I drain the oil first and then change the filter ... So I have no idea what will happen for sure. My understanding is that it depends on the car.
     
  2. Apr 21, 2020 at 8:48 PM
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    I haven’t tried this on the Tundra. However, if you take a shop vac and put the hose over the fill you can cause enough suction to remove the drain bolt without draining the oil. May work on the filter.
    I would assume though with the Tundra setup it would just be the oil in the canister that would come out under normal conditions.
     
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  3. Apr 21, 2020 at 8:53 PM
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    I don’t see a reason why you can’t change only the filter. You’ll lose some oil at the filter housing of course but, most of the oil remains in the pan.
     
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  4. Apr 21, 2020 at 9:24 PM
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    You lose a little under a quart. I see his point about the break in fears. Why not just change oil too if he is that worried, i always do a 1k mile change too
     
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  5. Apr 21, 2020 at 10:10 PM
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    There's is a drain on the oil filter cap that you remove before the canister. Once you take that off you can use the tool that Motovix has or the little piece that comes with OEM toyota filters to drain the oil from the filter. Then remove the filter without losing too much oil but definitely enough that you would need to add some. While you're under there you might as well just change the oil too though. While you're at it you can get that crap 0w20 out of there and put in some 5w30.
     
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    Makes me wish Toyota had the same design on the Tundra as they did with the 4.0 in the Tacoma. Just open the hood, spin off the old filter, spin on the new one, clean up what came out in the catch area, and good to go.
     
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  7. Apr 22, 2020 at 7:22 AM
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    Interesting. I had considered that same thing, but went with the 0-20. I think next change Ill def go with 5w20 or 5w30.
     
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  8. Apr 22, 2020 at 8:17 AM
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    What are the main benefits of going with 5W-30? Better lubrication? I've also read engines run quieter on 5W-30, but you lose some MPGs...I'm curious in the thinking behind using 5W-30.

    I've been reading a lot about the Toyota 0W-20 specification and many theories as to why Toyota specs this type of oil for our trucks, topic for a different discussion.
     
  9. Apr 22, 2020 at 8:24 AM
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