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Do I have wheel spacers?

Discussion in '2nd Gen Tundras (2007-2013)' started by GreatBallsOfFire, Jul 26, 2020.

  1. Jul 26, 2020 at 2:34 PM
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    GreatBallsOfFire

    GreatBallsOfFire [OP] "I wanna go fast" - Ricky Bobby

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    I have a 2012 tundra that I am working on building out as a go anywhere fast overland build and I realized that I didn’t have anything to change my tires with. So I got on the Amazon like one does and ordered jack stands. Well I finally took my tire off to make sure I could change it if I was off-road and it looks like the previous owner installed wheel spacers. Not super positive about it because I have never taken a tundra wheel off and I don’t have a ratchet that’s small enough to try and take them off.

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    Yes

    Also to add,
    Looks like a Bora 1.25" to me.
     
  3. Jul 26, 2020 at 2:38 PM
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    You need a standard 22mm socket to remove them I believe
     
  4. Jul 26, 2020 at 2:43 PM
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    GreatBallsOfFire [OP] "I wanna go fast" - Ricky Bobby

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    The Arcan 22mm I have is too thick to fit. Is the amount of threads showing on the nuts in the spacer okay?

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    Looks like they have been on there for a while so obviously they are not going to fall off but it looks like you don't have many threads holding them on. That would make me nervous. I would put in some longer studs if I was gonna keep them.
     
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    I wonder why they are in the first place. Do you have aftermarket wheels?
     
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    Yah, stock wheels but I have a set of Nitto RidgeGrapplers at 295/75/r18 measured at 33”. I plan on swapping to some bronze method 701s with 35s soon, and eventually 37” if I ever get around to long traveling this in a year or so.

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    Are your tires so wide they need the spacers, if not' I'd ditch them. You could make a little spare change selling them.
     
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    I used a Husky 22mm non impact socket to install my spacers. They are thin walled enough that they will fit. Home Depot sells them as individual sockets for a few bucks.
     
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    I have BORA 1.25” spacers on my truck and the lugs on mine seem to grab a few more threads than yours.....

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    Bet you don't need them with those tires/rims. When you buy new rims get the proper offset so that you don't need spacers also. Just one more thing to fail.
     
  12. Jul 27, 2020 at 8:07 AM
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    I agree. Too much spacer, not enough stud.

    Full fastener strength is achieved with minimum one bolt-diameter, or full nut, engagement. Looks like you've got about half-assed strength holding those spacers (and wheels) on your truck. I'm not a big fan of spacers anyway, but fortunately, I have no need for them.
     
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  13. Jul 27, 2020 at 10:16 AM
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    I'm not a fan of spacers either but I don't think I would be too worried about the stud/ nut. Unless the studs were removed for shorter ones they are factory. That would suggest that they are catching plenty of threads. I don't think I've ever seen wheel spacers come with replacement studs for the factory studs. Ideally you would like about 1 1/2 threads showing beyond the nut. But that assumes a standard thickness nut. In this case the studs are the weak link and they are much more likely to fail than the nuts.

    TBH I can't remember a lug nut failing other than it being cross threaded. Even when over tightened it seams like the stud breaks. I would still ditch them. I'm betting the PO had different wheels with the wrong offset on it and put the stockers back on before selling it. Probably too lazy or didn't have an easy way to remove them so left them on. To remove them you'll need the correct socket and an extra person in the truck to apply the brakes to keep the rotor from spinning since you can break them loose with the wheel on. With the stock wheels pushed out an extra 1.5" I'm a little surprised the outside edge of the tire isn't rubbing on the fender when you make a sharp turn.
     
  14. Jul 27, 2020 at 12:58 PM
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    It depends on the configuration of the M14 X 1.5 lug nut used.

    Full strength engagement for M14 X 1.5 stud would be 14mm / 1.5mm =~ 10 threads. I count three of the OP lug nut threads not engaged. So, if the lug nut used has at least 20mm (~25/32", 13 threads) of depth, OP has full strength regardless of how bad it looks. Fortunately, mechanical engineers typically design using a safety factor of 2 to 3, meaning the wheel stud will likely handle 2X to 3X normal service loads.

    Experimenting to see how few threads you can engage and not lose a wheel is still a bad idea. :D
     

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