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Finding the Rear AXLE Shaft for a 05 DBL Crew Cab

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by Becky4835, Nov 30, 2020.

  1. Nov 30, 2020 at 4:09 PM
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    I have a Rear Axle shaft dilemma....
    Trying to ensure with confidence I get the right parts that fit my 2005 Tundra SR5 Dbl Cab Crew 4x4 ...
    Background:
    While driving down the highway... my rear end dropped to the pavement.... and I see the passenger tire flying away.... as it broke off the axle. I had it towed to the nearest repair shop, that probable has minimal to rare tundra rear end axle/leaking seal/bearing jobs coming in, which is my thought because I had to speak up to clarify that the axle shafts are not the same length for a standard vs the Dbl crew cab and that they are finding it difficult to locate the parts needed to repair the truck. it’s in northern Michigan, my options were... limited .. none except to the closest and at this point not a option to flat bed tow it somewhere else that may have more tundra experience and the right press ect. There is a goal of getting the truck into the repair bay, and not end up with a shaft that is the wrong one and the issue of it occupying that bay... as apparently it’s some fiasco for this shop to pull it in with no tire as is.... let alone get back out while waiting for the right part.

    I was able to locate my tire/rim and the drum.


    What is definite.... and no confusion about is that the Rear Right Axle Shaft snapped .... and I will need a new one that comes with the additional Misc bearing seal ect.
    I’m trying to avoid even the thought of a new axle Toyota oem. But through Toyota, and using the VIN... I’m coming up with a axle length of 32.08 in. The parts stores are saying, is that the Dorman 630-340 is the correct part # however in reverse order of confirming its fit... it’s saying it does not match fit the crew cab. The OEM Toyota part # 4231134060 is what I. And up with...
    can anyone give me some clarification as to the right part and Axle shaft length.
     
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    Only a little bit of axle shaft metal can be seen at the spot of separation.
     
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    Try the NAPA Axle Kit (half price of OEM) but do not use their gaskets/seals they provide. Use only the Toyota Gaskets/Seals! Very important and not that much in cost.
     
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    And here is my tire
     
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    I will look Napa up..... the bearing, is that picky like the seal?
     
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    The NAPA
    Information I found was
    Actually the Dorman same part Number....
    With Specifications Of:
    • Important Information: Includes Bearing
    Contents Axle Shaft
    Length 32.08 in.
    Manufacturer Dorman
    Manufacturer Part Number 630-340
    Spline 30
    UNSPSC 25173807
    VMRS Code 021000000
    Buyer's Guide
     
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    Bearing is Koyo iirc. That is the OEM Spec. Had mine replaced last year. The NAPA Seals failed right away three times. Switched to Toyota Seals on the NAPA Axle and no problem. Did my other Seal on the other rear wheel as it was old and leaking with Toyota Seal and its holding, as well.

    Always use Toyota Seals for anyone reading here.
     
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    Good job. All confirmation measurements are on you. Just use the Toy Seals ($12).
     
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    How in the heck did this axle break?
     
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    You mentioned it being very important using oem Toyota seal gaskets....
    Previously, less than 5,000 miles ago.... it was in for rear axle seal leaks and bearings....... Both sides and I don’t fully believe this same side that has broke... that the it was repaired correctly because it continued to have some leaking oil that can be seen in the drum..... it appeared to still have some leaking. Took it back in, they said it appeared normal.
    I have some mention that a ongoing leak may have contributed to the shaft metal getting to hot thus snapping... I think it’s more that the rear ended and axles... it’s all junk.
     
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    A couple days prior...
    Turned a corner......
    heard a loud ‘Tink’ it coasted you the side of road....
    Looked under could see the drive shaft spinning... no wheels moving..... I put it in 4x4 H to get it to the cabin...
    Drive only few miles over next 2 days... tried to take it towards lower Michigan get it closer to home.... about 45-50 miles out is when the wheel separated off.
     
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    Do you know what seals and bearings they used? Sounds fishy that it was in 5k miles ago and now a break. They probably mangled your bearing job like my first mechanic which I fired after the second attempt. He bought me the NAPA Kit because he messed up the Original Axle which is the only reason I know they are about half price.

    Took it to a Toyota Stealer and it took them 3 times to figure out we needed to use Toyota Seals. They messed up some other stuff the first few times and made that right, but I told them to use Toyota Seals. They figured it out finally.

    You really need to find an expert on these bearing axle repairs. They are tricky on these trucks. I’d hold the 5k ago repair guy liable on this. I bet they mangled it which led to your accident. Thankfully nobody was hurt. Hold them to the fire!
     
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    you wanna have the tool from ebay. i am surly no expert and we did it in a few hours i actually had a broken shaft just like that on my truck i bought for cheap i do know that the rear end cover had rust holes in it

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    i used sfk parts on 2 trucks one did 15k the other did 4k so far seems ok the abs ring was the tricky part
     
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    cover thing is cool tho

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    And this, as Paul Harvey used to say, is the rest of the story. It didn't make sense that the axle shaft just snapped out of the blue driving down the highway.

    It sounds like you don't need just a axle shaft, but rather an entire axle assembly. You'd be best off to find a used one from a salvage yard. You're in Michigan -- or your truck is. It shouldn't be too hard to find an axle... there should be plenty of Tundras with rusted out frames and bodies that still have a decent axle under them. Just make sure the diff cover isn't rusted too badly.

    Here's my theory on what happened. The shop screwed up the bearing/seal job, as you indicated the axle continued to leak. You drove it 5K miles leaking gear oil until the oil level got to the point where it could no longer sufficiently lubricate the gear set in the center of the axle. That "tink" you heard was something giving way in the third member/diff.. You continued to drive the truck in FWD until the axle seized up and snapped the shaft.

    In searching for your new axle, it will help for you to use the correct terms to ensure you get the correct part. 1st Gen Tundras came in 3 varieties:
    1) Standard Cab
    2) Extra Cab (or Extended Cab) (EDIT: Access Cab is the correct term)
    3) Double Cab

    (There was no Crew Cab. I believe that's an American manufacturer term -- using it in your search will just add confusion.) As I understand it, the Double Cab has a different width axle than the Standard Cab and Extra Cab.
    I believe the axles inputs are also different between 2WD and 4WD models, and then there's the gear ratios that are different between V6 and V8.
     
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    i would not buy doman plenty of junk yards around. Doman is a big no go 90 percent of the time and really id trust used all day over that stuff
     
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    I’m finding all of this interesting...
    The reply’s since yesterday......
    As I highly suspect there is correlation of possible metal failure secondary to bearings damaging the metal or excess heating up in that area... it actively had oil residue right after that had been noticing following the seal job.
    I have repeatedly told my husband..... there is more to all of these axle And differential problems than fluke with this make and model tundra. In addition to the faulty design is the ability for them to be fixed... right the first time.... the seals holding.
    I did a whole lot of research following the 1st seal repair.... had to have it done a 2nd time with bearings both sides.....
    Now I have a broken axle shaft.....
    I am actually taking the 2000 Tundra over to the shop right now so the 4x4 actunator under neath can be either all cleaned up or replaced.. Assuming that’s the issue of intermittent going into 4x4 here and there..... We’ve never had seal leaking with the 2000 but it had a replaced frame prior to us. I can’t complain about that one at all.

    While I am at the shop dropping that off.... ..
    I’m going to nicely ask for the previous servicing of my 2005 tundra’s seals and bearings ... so I can look at the mileage......
    And BECAUSE no one up near the location the truck is stranded at can give a confirmation on the right axle shaft length that needs to be replaced.... I’m going to ask the question while I’m there for the other trucks drop off.
    TO BE CONTINUED
     
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    So I drop my other Tundra off to the repair shop......
    Politely ask them to pull my work order up for the 2005 Double Cab... to be able to verify date done and mileage the truck was at.... confirm exactly what work was done... if bearings themselves were changed....
    Well it was axle outer seals only...
    At that time they felt bearings looked fine...
    the date was May 2019....... Didn’t have the truck mileage listed..... but from end of May until we hit low temps that required our wonderful trucks computer to want verification that the secondary air pumps kicked on.... we parked it until spring of this year..... I hadn’t researched enough to be comfortable buying the bypass kit for the SAS system..... but also didn’t like dealing with flipping the battery off to clear codes every 3rd start.... in the spring I bought a code reader... Bluetooth.. able to clear codes from my phone... and that’s why I put it back on the road. So mileage probably 5-6000 max since last May of 2019
    They mechanics seen the pics... heard the story..... Both previously from the Toyota dealership for nearly 20 years said they personally have never seen a axle break like that in that location......
    Willing to honor looking at it no charge.. as they know they don’t want to get a blame..... But I’m not flat bed towing it 250 miles back down to my main place.

    I told my husband he needs to sleep on the couch, not out of disgruntledness but to allow him to not be distracted for a few nights... to reflect on the various symptoms prior to the snap..... and be open minded that there is likely more to the story than a out of nowhere a bad piece of shaft metal........
    And have a trained eye inspect up farther... then the actual break.
    Instead of his 100% dead fast position that it’s impossible anything ‘locked’ , ‘seized’ or broke higher up towards the Middle assembly / or differential gears ect that created a bigger force resistance than that metal could take.
    At 2am I the highway he didn’t get under it.. he assumes that axle is still freely able to spin.

    I had however, given myself a chuckle, reading a few reply’s that included importance of terminology... NOT offended in the least... Because I’ve spent 2-3 days trying express to a part store employee that Double wasn’t the same as Extended ect and to add or not have a certain part of the info correct... u can sure bet your not going to get accurate information. I figured out real fast...... it’s a specialty thing.... that only the people that really KNOW, Know.....that the axle shaft length for example IS different than regular or Extended... and that the Diff ratio gears are different between a few.
    So they are right..... when you don’t have the accurate terminology ... confusion, and running around in circles happens..... Now I’m able to take the word ‘Crew’ off there... one of the stores data bases ... separates by listing it as a 4 Door.
    One of the questions I kept getting during my search was... ‘is it a Locking or without’
    And I thought neither that it was a semi-floating limited slip type operation.
    I’ll give him few days... sees if he calls them up and asks if they have experience in inspecting that rear end axle assembly and Diff closer......
    TO BE CONTINUED
     
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    my axle shaft was broken and we just ended up only needing a shaft i could not explain it myself i thought at some point it might have been replaced with a doman part lol
     
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    For the benefit of my husband.....

    Let’s Say.... it’s a isolated axle shaft ONLY......
    Can anyone out there tell me what the exact length of the axle shaft is for the Double Cab..........


    Since yesterday I can now say it is WITH Locking..... otherwise known as the LD Limited Slip is factory installed.
    But I can’t locate a used Rear assembly shaft in the right ratio as there is 4 separate axles for the 4wd
     
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    The parts store measured the Dorman.....
    Said it was 35 something inches.....
    BUT I believe they measured from the outside of the hub down to the distant end.... instead of just the end up to.... the hub which should’ve been 32.08’

    I can’t find a used oem with the accurate measurement listed on the part description.
     
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    Interesting thread. OP I hope it turns out for you but I do agree with others that OEM, even OEM salvage yard, is the way to go. Use Dorman at your own risk.

    Maybe start a new thread asking if anyone on the forum has a third member for sale. I've seen members selling/trading engines, frames, and everything in between on here.

    Don't think I'd survive very long if my wife postponed our nighttime workouts and banished me to the couch every time something broke on one of my vehicles.
     
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    :rofl::rofl::rofl:


     
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    Did the shaft get repaired? Husband still on the couch? I’m sure that some clarity has to have set in by now.:rofl:
     

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