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Is the Toyota TRD OEM Lift for a 22 TRD OR good for overlanding?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by TheRev709, Jul 17, 2023.

  1. Jul 17, 2023 at 2:22 PM
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    TheRev709

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    As the title suggests, I'm looking to upgrade my 22 TRD OR suspension for overlanding. Naturally, I'm looking for a 2.5-3" lift but also want to make sure the suspension can handle the added weight for future upgrades.

    I currently have steel RCI skid plates, an Up-top overland mid height bed rack, and iKamper 3.0 RTT. I plan on adding a steel bumper, winch, and rock rails this year, but want to get the suspension upgraded first.

    Next I plan to add a Decked system, rear steel bumper, plus new wheels and tires (35").

    I've reached out to some shops on recommendations, and they don't recommend the Toyota TRD lift as it's tuned to the stock weight. I think that makes sense, but considering I was planning on getting it installed by my Toyota dealer (to get the warranty coverage), they do have an incentive to convince me to buy a lift kit that they can install.

    Thank being said, what other kits would you recommend? I'm mostly interested in tackling fun trails but nothing too crazy. Think more Alpine Loop/Imogene Pass than Poughkeepsie Gulch. This isn't a daily driver, but we could take some road trips in it, so it would be nice to have an adjustable suspension (which I understand some King kits can do) to make the ride comfy not just or the trail but also the highway.

    One other consideration/question is Toyota Safety Sense (TSS) compatibility with aftermarket kits? That was another reason I was leaning towards the TRD kit as it guaranteed compatibility with TSS. Does anyone have any experience with aftermarket kits on the new Tundras and how they pair with the existing systems?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Jul 17, 2023 at 3:12 PM
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    TucsonTundra1794

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    The oem kit does not replace the rear coils so I don't feel like it will hold that much weight without sagging. I'd suggest upping the rear coils to a stronger one if you plan to carry that much weight constantly. Aftermarket kits will work with TSS I was told by Toyota that no modifications are needed to make it work with a lift so that's where I'm getting that info from.
     
  3. Jul 21, 2023 at 8:05 AM
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    TheRev709

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    Thanks for the reply! Looking at the options for the 22 Tundra, I'm leaning towards King Shocks, specifically KRS-25001-396A and KRS-25001-397A. I do like how the Icon kits feel more complete with UCAs, but everything I've read on this forum and reddit makes me feel like I should avoid em. I see a lot of folks pair Total Chaos UCAs with them. The TRD kit also comes with a ton of other parts:
    • Front Lower Knuckles
    • Front Stabilizer Links
    • Front Outer Tie Rods
    • Front Tie Rod Sleeves
    • Front Extended Drive Shafts
    • Front Jounce Bumpers
    • Extended Brake Flex Hoses
    Are these anything I should also look at getting?
     
  4. Jul 21, 2023 at 8:10 AM
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    TucsonTundra1794

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    I had stage 8 icon kit installed on my 17' tundra and opted for spc upper control arms over the icon ones. They have more adjustability over icon. If you get the TRD kit and upgrade the rear coils i think that would be the best route.
     
  5. Jul 21, 2023 at 9:34 AM
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    memario1214

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    Colton with Hotshot Offroad here :wave:. Since you plan on going full overland mode I can't recommend going the King route unless you plan on having them revalved/tuned. An off the shelf King doesn't love all of that weight pressing on it, and your ride will suffer as a result. You'll want to look into something that is digressive biased for that application. The best option out there for the 22 Tundra, and you already mentioned them, is Icon. Granted, there's not a lot of options out there either for these trucks yet. To give you a little context I wouldn't have even sold you an Icon shock in 2018. They had more leaking issues than they knew what to do with. We still run into it from time to time with shocks having signs of giving up oil on arrival, and they don't package their stuff the best for transit, but we've been happy enough with them here to promote them in general, and even have them on one of our shop builds. The other benefit to them as well is product availability. We're still seeing 7mo lead times on King products so let's say something does go wrong... you're stuck sitting on your hands. Another option worth mentioning that we could get for you would be a Dobinsons MRR system. They're a fully adjustable system as well, and have shown to hold up on the heavy-built trucks.

    As for the UCAs - I wouldn't go TC for your setup, unless you're telling me that you are going to be really lashing on your suspension. I suspect that is unlikely only because overland build and speed don't generally go together. That doesn't mean we don't try it though considering I ran my overland-built tundra on the cinders in Sedona with @TucsonTundra1794 and @BiggHertz :bananadead:. A uniball UCA is great, but they tend to be noisy and have to be serviced somewhat regularly to remain happy. I recommend something sealed like an Icon, JBA, TRD, etc. I will caution you that we have had some Icon UCAs have squeaky bushings in different applications that were pretty hard to squash so I am a little hesitant to formally recommend them unless you go with the billet arms. I'm happy to answer any more questions you have so feel free to give me a buzz here at 406-936-0206 or if you reply here I can pop back in later today.
     
  6. Jul 21, 2023 at 10:22 AM
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    You've seen me in action... what should I get on the new truck?
     
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  7. Jul 21, 2023 at 10:44 AM
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    You gonna load it down or just wanna go fast?
     
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  9. Jul 21, 2023 at 1:10 PM
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    TheRev709

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    Thanks so much for the recommendation! Looking at the Icon stages can be a bit overwhelming. Which stage would you recommend? I'll be building my truck up over time, adding bumpers, lights, winches, ect, and right now just have steel skid plats, a bed rack, and RTT but plan to add a steel front bumper and winch along with the lift. As mentioned, I plan to tackle moderate trails - nothing crazy, and certainly nothing you can't reasonably get a Tundra into or out of. I live in Colorado, and plan to hit up the Alpine loop later this year as well as a return trip to Moab. We try to get out for a day or two at least once a month during the fall, with one or two 3-5 day trips per year at most. I would prefer something that can be adjustable for highway travel, as some of our trips might include a few days of travel on regular roads. I have about 500-600lbs of gear (rough estimate) between the add ons listed above and additional camping gear. I'm guessing all told it could end up with 1500lbs of additional weight with all of the armor, winch, a decked storage system, space gas, etc.
     
  10. Jul 21, 2023 at 2:07 PM
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    Well... There's not a ton out there in terms of
    Yeah the Icon "stages" are a bit confusing. At a basic level what you're going to want is something at least 2.5" to be able to dissipate the heat. Since you want adjusters the Stage 9 is your entry point for 2.5s and Stage 1 for 3.0s will get you adjusters. Based on your use case though I don't think you need 3.0 shocks. When you get a chance just give me a buzz, and I would be happy to talk through all of it. Punching out novels is tough, and I also don't want to leave anything out or leave questions that you have unanswered.
     

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