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Looking at a 2023 Limited Long Bed. Hybrid or not to? Or the OFF road pkg

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by TundraRyan, Aug 6, 2023.

  1. Aug 6, 2023 at 6:32 PM
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    TundraRyan

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    Like the title says, I'm going to look at a couple trucks tomorrow. I want the long bed due to being able to throw my race quad in the back and be able to close the tailgate. I like all the features of the Limited other than the ugly chrome.

    I have a box trailer that I tow with our quads to races, probably about 5k lbs. I currently have a 2018 TRD with 6112's and 5160's that I love but the gas mileage is horrendous. So I'm thinking about the Hybrid model, however it's 4x4 and not the TRD OR package. the OR package has some crappy shocks anyways. I plan on getting some Dobinsons or the TRD kit pretty quickly. I think that the Multi terrain would be cool. I don't have that now and haven't got stuck yet. So I'm trying to figure out if the hybrid is worth it? I drive a lot in the city and will be towing my trailer. My train of thought here is that the hybrid would be beneficial getting up to speed with the trailer and around town. I know it's more of a power boost for our trucks than mpg but it has to help, even with a slightly lifted truck. Maybe I'm wrong? But I bought my 2018 with 1 mile and I'm at 115k miles now and average 12mpg.

    So is it worth it to get the hybrid? a little more power and a little more mpg.

    And I don't know if I would use the TRD off road features that often? I would like the locking rear differential however that only works in 4 low and I don't ever think that with the long bed I'll be doing any crawling.

    Thanks going to look at trucks in the morning.
     
  2. Aug 6, 2023 at 7:16 PM
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    Terndrerrr 925000 miles to go

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    • Skip the TRD Off road if you're never going to use the off-roading features.

    • If you get 12mpg in your 2018, you're gonna get less than advertised in the 3rd gen as well. Real world usage on Fuelly has them at ~3mpg difference.
    It will take you FOREVER to make your money back on fuel efficiency buying a $60k truck, especially after you lift it and put tires on it.

    • It will have gobs of torque at low RPMs. This will feel "effortless" compared to your 2018 which revs high to make its power. The trade-off for that effortless feeling is that the twin turbo is inherently far harder on itself.

    • I'd probably skip the hybrid myself; it weighs a lot, costs a lot, and does not seem to do a whole lot for you. Some people seem to love it though.

    Others will chime in. I have minimal experience. I will probably get one when my kids are all out of the house (in 10 yrs).
     
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  3. Aug 6, 2023 at 7:41 PM
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    Terndrerr, thanks for the reply and Im on a similar page as you.
    If I baby it on the highway, on long trips with hardly any stops I can get close to 14-14.5mpg. I just drive a lot. I found a Limited hybrid with long bed and 4x4 with every feature for less than any of non hybrids and that's honestly why I was considering it. But my every day driving I'm always 11-12mpg. So If I could average 15-16 city and 17-20 highway, that would be great. honestly that would save me a lot of money with as much as I would drive. Just didn't know if it's a big deal for the hybrid or not. I'm just going to be towing a trailer as well at least 2 times a month for several hundred miles, didn't know if the hybrid would do better in that regard? the more torque and power from the battery system would make the engine work a little less hard to get up to speed?

    The TRD off road, I know that the axles are a touch better. just honestly like 1/2" longer. so really the only features that I would be missing out on is the rear locker and the crawl/dac. feature. IDK. I plan on doing a subtle lift like what I currently have.

    yeah My kids are grown and just have my youngest who's a senior, My truck is paid off currently but every time I fill up and see my mileage I cringe.
     
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  4. Aug 6, 2023 at 8:57 PM
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    Terndrerrr 925000 miles to go

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    I get it. If you want the new truck, knock yourself out.

    I don’t think there’s any way your driving style, which gets you 12mpg in your current truck (2mpg less than Fuelly average), is going to get you more than 15ish total in a new one, especially with a mild lift. The real world difference between the 5.7 and the TTv6 is about 3mpg.

    Current truck: At $3.50/gal @ 12mpg, your current truck costs $0.29/mile.
    3rd gen: At $3.50/gal @ 15mpg, it’ll cost you $0.23/mile.

    So, you’d save six cents per mile. Suppose you’re only out of pocket $30k for the new truck. It’ll take you 500,000 miles to earn your $30k back saving 6 cents per mile.

    Say you don’t mod the new truck, and you average 17mpg. That’s $0.205/mile. Saving 8.5 cents per mile vs your 2018. Then it would only take 353,000 miles to make up your $30k, lol.

    Again, get it if you want it. But this is where my mind goes when I think I want another truck. The fuel savings don’t justify it.
     
  5. Aug 6, 2023 at 9:10 PM
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    I agree with above posts. I don’t think you’ll be blown away by the extra MPGs and it will take forever to recover the cost.
    As for the hybrid. My research shows little return in the savings category for fuel.
     

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