lug nut help needed

so to start i have bought a set of vision soft 8 rims for my 2000 SR5 tundra and i wanted to get some new lug nuts i almost opted out to buy cheap lug nuts off Amazon but still not sure what to look for and i know the original lugs work for the rims any recommendations for replacements ?

rim specs for those who want to know :
size:16X7/bore:108 /offset:0 /bsm(in):4 /cap num:C171-V02 /rating(lb) 2100/weight: 29

any help would be extremely helpful

 

I use Gorilla Lug Nuts on mine...they aren't cheap but that is the only thing holding your wheels on so cheap is not an option.

 

You should get 108mm-106.1mm hub centric rings in order to fill the gap, since that center bore is larger than your hub. Get metal ones, not plastic

Your OEM lug nuts will be mag type, as opposed to conical type commonly found on the other trucks. Do not try to use mag type lugs nuts if those new rims are made for conical. The lug nut thread you need is M12.

 

Your definitely right and I shouldn't cheap out on the lug nuts which I'm not going to hence why I'm here now ... Thanks so much for the advice

 

i tried finding some for my jeep, and was told by a parts house and 2 tire shops they dont use those anymore, and the only ones i could find on the interwebs were plastic.

 

If you can't find them online then I am positive you're misspelling the name. I was able to find 108-106.1 rings in aluminum and the only place I had to look was Amazon. #2 in my search results. Can also be found on Ebay.

I can't explain why a shop would tell you not to use them aside from the fact that they probably enjoy making easy money charging to diagnose vibrations that they know the cause of. I can't imagine any other reason. The bore on the OEM rims is chosen to match the hub for a reason. Why would you want to change that?

 

I think this is more of a liability issue for them maybe I ran into something similar when trying to find a place locally that had spacers on hand. 1 shop told me that the majority of shops in town have gotten away from them...just my thoughts.

On the lug note, does the lug depend in n the wheel and solely on the wheel for type of lug nut? This is what I believe to be true but readings.

 

In terms of type (mag vs conical), yes, the rim and the nut must match.

I very quickly looked up those rims you mentioned and if I'm looking at the correct ones, they are mag type.

If you use these rims and don't put rings on your hubs you are going to have a bad time. I do not care when any shop tells you. Mag type rims are hubcenteric, meaning they transfer the weight of the vehicle directly through the hub (using the center bore) and the lugs are only used to hold the rim in place. The alternative to this is a lugcenteric rim which uses conical type nuts to both transfer the vehicle weight through the lugs as well as hold the rim in place.

What you're attempting to do is to run a hubcenteric rim in a lugcentric configuration. If you want to run these rims, you need some hubcentric rings. If you refuse to deal with the rings, then you need conical lug nuts and a different set of rims.

When a shop tells you that they're "getting away from using hubcenteric rings", I would bet that they primarily see GM/Ford/Dodge trucks, all of which are lugcentric with OEM conical nuts... meaning the addition of a ring would be meaningless on those trucks. When they do see a Toyota, they just sell them a set of conical nuts along with conical rims.

Edit: I just realized that I confused Hi06silver for OP. My mistake. Quoting OP so he sees this post.

 

While you are right in that mag style wheels need to be mounted hub centric (either with the wheel itself or in combination with an adapter)...

IIRC Mag, ball style and conical lug nuts transfer the majority of the load through the clamping force applied to the wheel. It's only when you do something beyond mfg design (jumps anyone) that the hub, lugs and studs come into play.

Conical and ball style lug nuts are self centering. Mag style are NOT and that is why you must use a hub centric spacer/ring/adapter if the hub bore is larger than the wheel hub on the spindle/axle.

 

All very interesting, but this is the most important part. His center bore is larger than his hub by 2mm.

I don't know why anyone would even think twice about it. A set of 4 aluminum rings costs like $20.

 

Agreed.

Plastic ones work but if you change wheels often, they will wear out.


Also it helps to use anti-sieze on the aluminum spacers in the aluminum rims. Otherwise corrosion can make them stick together.