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New 2024 Tundra - Go or No-Go?

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by snmhanson, Jun 2, 2024.

  1. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:12 AM
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    snmhanson

    snmhanson [OP] New Member

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    I've got a big decision to make within the next few days. I put a deposit on a new 2024 Tundra Hybrid a couple weeks ago that should be arriving any day now. It had everything I wanted and I am pretty particular so it took some effort to find the exact fit. I knew a little about the engine issue going in and was willing to roll the dice at that time with the assumption that:

    A. The problem impacts a fairly small percentage of trucks,
    B. I planned on buying an extended warranty to get me through at least ten years
    C. The dealer provides a lifetime powertrain warranty (for whatever that's worth)
    D1. Toyota had figured it out and fixed the issue by the time this one was manufactured
    -or-
    D2. Toyota will figure it out and correct my truck prior to failure

    Now, with the recall announced I am wondering if it is a good thing that Toyota is taking responsibility and will properly take care of the trucks? Or is it a bad thing in that the announcement means that potentially every V35A-FTS engine is flawed and will need to be ripped apart to (hopefully) repair the issue, otherwise it is only a matter of time until the engine blows? Adding to me dilemma is that I've driven the other full-size trucks and the Tundra is really the only one that I want. And it seems that the other manufacturers are having their own issues anyway.

    What to do? As it stands now the only options I'm considering are to go ahead with the purchase, enjoy the truck and deal with any issues/recalls as they arise. Or hold off until there is more clarity on the issue/recall - but who knows how long that will be and if there will ever be a fully acceptable solution? I don't technically need a truck right now, but my the small SUV I am currently driving isn't really cutting it for me so it would be very nice. I suppose my third option would be to find a 20/21 Tundra - but I really prefer everything about the newer models, with the exception of the engine issues.

    I understand that no one on this board knows more than what is already out there, and of course there has been a bunch of discussion already - both on this board as well as many other paces. But any advice or words of wisdom would be appreciated. Should I trust that Toyota will figure it out and take care of me if necessary? Anyone else in my position and what are you doing?

    Thank-you!
     
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  2. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:20 AM
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    I’d say you have mitigated all risks. Ask your sales manager these questions to see if they will provide you any more reassurance or a discount and buy it. I’d ask they put you in another truck as a requirement of sale if there are issues with your truck being out of service for an extended period of time, especially if you are paying a high price for it.
     
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  3. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:27 AM
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    I'd kill the order and renegotiate the price. If you're nervous about it buy something else.
    All manufacturers have ample supply. It's not like 21-23. You can get a deal on anything.
    I also would not negotiate special dispensation with a specific dealer and I'd stay with factory programs only if you travel outside of your dealer range.
     
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  4. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:44 AM
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    Rockpig

    Rockpig You did what?

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    Has anyone read the recall notice that is posted on this site? It specifically states that it is for the CONVENTIONAL GAS MODEL ONLY, no mention of the Hybrid-the one he's buying.
    Your good to go buddy, glad I could put your mind at ease.
     
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  5. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:46 AM
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    40man

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    Yet there have been a number of hybrids that have had to have engine replacements.
     
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  6. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:59 AM
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    Hella Krusty

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    Really.......and where did you find this info?
     
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  7. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:59 AM
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    Paulswagelock

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    Pull the trigger and buy it. Negotiate the extended warranty into the deal. Enjoy the truck.
    All manufacturers experience issues, this is acknowledged and a fix will be declared. That fix could be something like “change the oil every 3000 miles” or rip and rebuild the motor. No one knows yet.
    Let’s assume there have been 400 failed motors so far, that is 0.1% of the tundra population since the new model was released, well under typical ranges.
     
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  8. Jun 2, 2024 at 12:00 PM
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    Rockpig

    Rockpig You did what?

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    But why were they replaced, was it for the same problem that is indicated on the recall for the gas engines? I believe if it was for the same problem Toyota would have issued a recall for those also. I'm not trying to be sarcastic but what are the number of trucks that had to have the engine replaced and again, is it for the same problem?
    I can pick up my new 2024 1794 Limited whenever I want, just waiting on a friend to complete his purchase of a new Tacoma. Dealership is 3 hours away from us and only want to drive out there once.
    I'm not worried about it, even if it does effect the truck I'm buying because it'll be under warranty. Now ask me if I have the same outlook in 6 months if it shits the bed and I'll probably have a different insight.
     
  9. Jun 2, 2024 at 12:01 PM
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    You should wait for at least 2025 model.

    All of the engines are the same for hybrid and non hybrid. Hybrids had failures too, so it's inevitable that they have the same problem as all other engines just hybrid is not yet as widespread.

    2024s had same reported issues with failed bearings, so issue isn't resolved yet. Toyota will definitely extend the recall to all of the 2023 and likely 2024s, they just can't handle all at once right now.

    Your extended warranties doesn't mean anything when you get stuck on a trip with family far away from home, and most importantly you won't have a piece of mind with your new truck, always worried that there's a chance engine bearings will fail. And you won't trust it.
     
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  10. Jun 2, 2024 at 12:05 PM
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    Hella Krusty

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    Just buy it with the extended warranty and enjoy it. Don't let the doomsayers ruin your decision. I have a 22 1794 hybrid and would buy another tomorrow. And BTW the same group that jumps post to post telling everyone what a POS the trucks are.....have already chimed in.
     
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  11. Jun 2, 2024 at 12:13 PM
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    Were the 2024s confirmed to have failed bearings? I saw the one posted on a flat bed but never saw a follow up on what was actually wrong with it.

    as for being worried, I am fully confident in my truck currently and until it gives me a reason not to be then I will continue to be confident in my truck. Not all have failed and prior to the recall I never saw a post about being scared to drive it on a roadtrip. I intend to take my truck on all the trips I have planned this year and will not be worried about making it to my destination. We have 70+ confirmed failures and even if there was another 500 failures we don’t know about with the trucks affected in the recall that is around .5%. Which I think if there was 600+ engine failure within the recall range we would know. As most people will post on social media or come to this site. So I highly doubt the number is that high.

    no point in living in fear and yes I have a wife and a toddler that are usually driving along with me. My truck has been solid so far and I’ll continue driving it and deal with the issues if they come along. Highly unlikely just based off what we know so far.

    and numbers above are all just guesses, I don’t know how many failures there are currently and I’m just speculating. Just want to put this disclaimer before people start asking for proof and all that stuff.
     
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  12. Jun 2, 2024 at 12:13 PM
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    40man

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    On the spreadsheet on this site reported by owners.
     
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  13. Jun 2, 2024 at 12:20 PM
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    Thanks for the replies.

    As far as killing the order to renegotiate, I landed on a price I was happy before the recall. Wonder how the recall may impact pricing? I was at $63K down from a MSRP of $71,352. Maybe not the best deal ever made, but I was comfortable with it. And that was with me already knowing that there was a potential an issue with the engine - though unaware of the full scope of the issue. I don't want to nickel and dime the dealer (it's their job to do that to me), but if the recall has changed the equation across the board I don't want to overpay either. Also, there really are no other full-size trucks that I want besides the Tundra so buying something else is a no-go.

    I wonder if the reason hybrids were not included in the recall is because it is a safety recall. In theory, even if the gas engine loses power, I assume the electric motor can get you safely off the road. That said, from a reliability standpoint, if the same ICE engine is being used in both, I would see no reason why the hybrid would be less inclined to failure than the non-hybrid. Maybe the gas engine is under less peak stress with the electric motor contributing? I am not a mechanic or overly knowledgeable on the inner working of trucks so I really have no idea.

    I like the idea of negotiating the extended warranty into the current price. I was planning on buying one from someone on this board after purchase, but maybe the recall would provide some leverage to get it added to the deal. I'm not sure what the extended warranty costs the dealer, but I know it is a lot less than the $4K they would typically charge.

    I'm not overly worried about getting stuck on the side of the road if the engine goes out. My kids are out of the house/in college for the most part so no major family trips in it. I would generally use the truck for trips within 20 miles from home and then maybe once or twice a month to run into the big city which is ~60 miles away. Longer trips we'd probably take my wife's Audi unless we need the capacity for some reason.

    Still on the fence, but you have all been very helpful. I just want to have faith that it is all going to get sorted out eventually.

    THanks!
     
  14. Jun 2, 2024 at 12:24 PM
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    shud be 12k+ off now, ppl were getting 10,500+ off pre massive recall, post recall i would expect more
     
  15. Jun 2, 2024 at 12:28 PM
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    2mchfun Cool story, but did your new TTV6 tow a shuttle?

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    Grab a rock solid 4.0 4Runner and a small 5x10 trailer for when you need a truck or rent a trailer when needed. So much better!
     
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    I bailed on the new Tundra. Lots of reasons, not just reliability. Put a deposit on a new Taco.
     
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  17. Jun 2, 2024 at 12:34 PM
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    Bnewman077 Happy 2023 Owner

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    Buy the truck and enjoy it. Get the extended warranty if you are worried. I have a 2023 non-hybrid and I’d buy it again today.
     
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  18. Jun 2, 2024 at 12:46 PM
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    Ignore this Toyota white night that thinks the reports of Engine failures are deep fake AI generated by aliens because it didn’t happen to him. He will belittle anyone that defames Toyota’s maiden honor because there is no way he made a bad decision. He is perfect in all things all the time.
     
  19. Jun 2, 2024 at 12:47 PM
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    2mchfun Cool story, but did your new TTV6 tow a shuttle?

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    Taço also having it's own issues with engines
     
  20. Jun 2, 2024 at 12:54 PM
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    I’m in a similar scenario, except that I’m just shopping for one on the lot vs. having an order in place. For the last several weeks I’ve been researching quite a bit. OPs write up is spot on with where I’m at. Love the tech, but the engine is a concern. I’ve got a ‘18 Tacoma that runs perfect, but usually get a new truck after six years or so. The new Tacoma’s are just that - too new. The Tundras are priced so close and you get so much more truck. Plus, I’d fit a lot better in a Tundra vs. the smaller Tacoma. Debating whether or not to get a ‘24 or wait for the ‘25s.

    I’ve been a lurker on this forum for a while, but just joined today. This has been a great resource to learn from current and prospective owners.
     
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    Cite your source? Got any data to back that up?

    YouTube videos don't count.
     
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    Day I sell my surf boat......is the day I dump the truck and buy a 4 runner . Wife had 2 and I loved them
     
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  23. Jun 2, 2024 at 2:55 PM
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    LOL...okay. Sorry but anyone can type shit on anything on the internet. Don't live in Reddit world. Not slagging you.
     
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    Idjit.
     
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    I’d hold off personally. At least wait until fall to see what 2025 brings.
     
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    I’d wait until 2026…
     
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    Imagine you buy a 2024 knowing all of the information that we know now, and then go to the dealer to have them rebuild the shortblock because of the recall...
     
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    Also imagine buying the truck and not having a single issue with it and it runs solid for the whole time you own it. You can imagine a thousand scenarios and live on what ifs. But at the end of the day everything is a risk and no one but Toyota knows the extent. Prior to 3 days again there were known failures and people were still buying trucks. But until thousands and thousands of trucks are failing I wouldn’t hesitate to buy my exact truck again tomorrow.
     
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    I've got a 23 non-hybrid. I love it and I'd buy it again. I would recommend changing the oil more than recommend. At least at 500 mile for break in and then every 5k after that. 10k seems way to long given the twin turbos and possible machining debris.
     
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    I don't want to say they'd deserve it, but damn. That's like someone saying hey watch out for that hole, and they laugh and keep walking and then break their ankle. Lol
     

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