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Nokian LT outpost nAT vs FALKEN OE

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by demfer, Aug 2, 2024.

  1. Aug 2, 2024 at 8:42 AM
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    demfer

    demfer [OP] New Member

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    I’ve been wanting to experiment with an LT tire on my 2022 TRD OR. Simple tire was running 20% off on these in stock 265/60/r20 so it is worth it to me to find out what the real-world implications are.

    in my case I use my truck to commute as well as tow a 28’ camper. Now that I’ve relocated to the northeast I also need something well established for wet and winter weather.

    just drove back from the installer, no noticeable change in road noise. The tires feel a bit stiffer but the suspension seems to take it up well and the ride quality did not bother me in the least.

    stock air pressure is 35 but with LT I aired them up to ~52psi (unloaded). However I do need to figure out what the best running pressures are when fully loaded with camper and then unloaded for commuting around town. The calculators and charts available are not very clear to me so if folks have advise please feel free to share.

    these tires are pretty oily and there is most certainly a break-in period so I plan to check back periodically and provide feedback and notes to the community here.

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  2. Aug 2, 2024 at 8:51 AM
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    Take them back down to 30-35. Too much tire for our not so heavy tundras.
    E load range are 3/4 ton and up, I'll only run a P load range with 3 peak symbol best for wet and snow period IMO.
    *what is the Load rating for your tire as LT is the only thing I can read on your side wall?

    I've run XL and even those were too much for my little 1/2 ton and it rode like crap too.

    They do look good!
     
  3. Aug 2, 2024 at 9:11 AM
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    Curious about these too (P version) after my factory Yokohama’s wear out. I’ve had good luck in the past with Falken AT3W’s on my 2011 SR5. I know OE tires these days are basically junk.
     
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    Look at a load table to determine PSI for your tire type. Toyo's is readily available (load tables are universal for tire types across all brands).

    https://www.toyotires.com/tires-101/tire-load-and-inflation-tables/

    At 35 psi your stockers load limit is 2403 and 2469 at 36 psi.

    Setting at LT at 35 gets you to 1825 lbs, far below the stock level (underinflated).l and likely not safe. Somewhere between 50 and 55 gets you back to stock levels.

    A safe metric is to look at the axle load in the manual and add some safety of at least 10%, and use the stock tire rating (2403) as your bare minimum for on road driving.

    Review and determine for yourself, and don't listen to idiots telling you to run at severely underinflated loads for your LTs.
     
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    thanks yeah, I ball-parked 52psi and seem to be right in the correct range. When towing I may go up to 65/70psi.

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  7. Aug 2, 2024 at 9:33 AM
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    I have the previous version from about 2 years ago of those tires in 285/75-18. Best AT tires I have ever run. They are wearing amazing, ride much better than wildpeaks, and much better MPG vs other brands Ive used.
     
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  8. Aug 2, 2024 at 1:37 PM
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    Thanks for the info. I don't run LT's so call me what you shall lol. You'll see by the butt pressures all over the place but @40man is correct to follow that chart.
     
  9. Aug 2, 2024 at 1:38 PM
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    P series or LT's?
     
  10. Aug 2, 2024 at 1:46 PM
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    @40man I do run my trailer tires @ max psi so I'm only part idiot?
    Surprized a HD tire has to run a higher pressure to carry the same load so I'm curious what the real differnces are in a P vs LT.
    I know the psi max obviously but the side walls would probably be similar?
    Also what about the stock rims and valve stem rated too?
     
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    285/75-18 are LT, 34.8 tall and like 11.3 wide so basically 35x1150
     
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    I have LT 275/65r18 Outpost nAT’s on my truck with about 13k miles on them. As @frichco228 mentioned above - Best tire I’ve ever run. Phenomenal in snow/winter mix, excellent road manners, quiet especially considering the somewhat aggressive tread, way better in mud and muck than any other AT I’ve had, and wearing great. You should be happy with them.

    They seem more forgiving on tire pressure than the Cooper AT3’s I had before; those were also a great tire but bested everywhere except maybe towing HEAVY by the Nokians. Even still, the Nokians have not complained one bit about heavy trailers, just wanted a little more tire pressure than the Coopers. The coopers let you know very clearly when you had too much pressure in them.

    I just had a set of p275/65r18 nAT’s mounted on the sequoia. We shall see how different the p and LT rated tires are. But that’s how satisfied I have been with the Nokians.
     
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    Email the manufacturer of the new tire with a picture of you door jamb sticker and what tires you now have and how you use your truck.
    They will tell you exactly what you should be running.
    Takes 5 minutes and maybe a day or so for them to respond.
    Sure beats guessing.
     
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