Ome 887 coils?

Already posted this in the “suspension” area, but I figured I’d post it in the 1st gen section because well…it’s a first gen!

Hey all, looking for a little help here. I’ve searched all over for any answers and I still can’t find one. I’ve seen 883, 885, etc. that will give ~2-2.5” of lift in front, but nothing on 887. I’m not looking to go over 3” or anything crazy, because my Tacoma is my money pit. Maybe I’m blind, or didn’t research enough. Anyway, the reason I ask about the 887’s is because these came off my 2017 Tacoma after I went full fox 2.5’s. They’re just sitting around and I’d like to match them with the ome nitro chargers. Curious if anyone has done this, and curious about lift heights. 2001trd o/r supercharged extended cab. Thanks!

 

According to their chart it's 10mm more than the 2884. Which typically works out to just about 3/4" more lift. So more like 3.25" if the 2884 gave you 2.5".

Ymmv.

 

Thank you for the reply! I’m familiar with them being 400mm and 590, but this is my first tundra so I’m not sure how lift values will translate from my taco to the tundra. Not sure I want to be around 3”. Uca’s, cv angles, etc. These came off my 3rd gen Tacoma and are just sitting in my garage. After settling, I was at ~2.10-2.25 on the Tacoma. If I have to go 885’s or 884’s, no problem. Gonna have to do some more research and get to know this truck’s suspension a little better. Thanks!

 

AC’s handle the springs much different than the DC’s.

It’s really not too difficult to swap springs. I’d give the 887’s a try before buying something else.

Report back and leave some info for others.

I’m about to try my 885’s on the second notch on my 5100’s as I think they have settled. I couldn’t find much info on that either.

 

Take a look in this thread, there may be someone with a similar AC truck and 2884/2885's with before/after to give you an idea.

https://www.tundras.com/threads/how-big-is-yours-measure-up.46186/

Edit: found it

Since you've already got them, you may want to throw them in and see where it ends up.

 

With an access cab, you probably don't want to go that route unless you intend to lift the rear, and are thinking about other upgrades. But if you've got the time and ability to load 'em up, hell, go for it. I'm curious to see the resulting look and ride.

There's a lot of info on what you'll get out of various OMEs for access cab in this thread, check the "Suspension, wheel and tires ..." section. Also several things you should probably be aware of, warnings, etc.

We have a few AC guys who've found out (sometimes the hard way) what does and doesn't work, but it's mostly intended for folks who are just walking into this green, either to the platform, or in general.

 

Thank you guys for replying!! I appreciate all of the info! Since I have them, might just grab a set of nitrochargers or 5100’s (very familiar with both) and see where I’m at with the 887’s. If I have to 884’s or 5’s at least I’ll have the shocks already. Also, while we’re on the front lift topic, is the front diff bearing vibration a problem like they are on the tacomas? I’ve done two of them, super easy, but it’s another thing to calculate before I start dropping coins. Into the tundra. Thanks in advance!!

 

I very rarely see anyone doing anything with bearings, or even diff drops for that matter, when lifting under 3" on 1GTs.

Only other advice, which you probably know already, stay with the lowest circlip setting on the 5100s when using lifted springs. This is supposedly per Bilstein, not me.

 

Great info shifty. Good to know about the diff bearing. Thank you. Yes, always lowest clip on the 5100’s.

 

I’ve got over 70k with 5100’s and 885’s, about 2 3/8” lift, and I have no needle bearing vibration.

On my 3rd Gen. Tacoma I had instant front driver side needle vibration with 5100’s and 885’s.

Not sure what the difference is between the two trucks

This was a fun project

 

I love this info!! That’s great to know. I initially went with 5100’s on my Tacoma. Then I went 887’s with 5100’s (first notch) broke the driver side 5100. Then ome 886/nitro charger, jba uca, coastal bumper and sb 10k winch, then fox coil overs with ~700# springs. Had to do ecgs bearing right after the 5100’s were installed at 1.5 to 1.75 (2nd/3rd clip) Tacoma is now my dialed-in off road rig. A lot of trial and error with my 3rd gen taco, just trying to mitigate trial and error on my (new to me) tundra. I’m now looking into a similar setup in the tundra rear. Icon rxt leafs (or similar), fox remote resi, u bolt flip, wheelers superbumps. Or maybe just ome dakars with nitros. Not sure. Still gotta figure out if my 887’s are too much or not.

Edit: I want to clarify that the 5100 that “snapped,” (bad terminology) was the lower 5100 metal bushing housing fractured at the weld.

Another edit: showing just a bit of the taco!

 

I keep putting it off, but my lift has really worn my needle bearing. Tons of slop in it now. That being said I don’t believe it’s my vibe issue, I think the axle shafts being longer and double CV instead of the cv with a plung joint in tacos helps mitigate vibes. We need to have lifted guys crawl under and see if they’ve got slop or not.. the ecgs bushing isn’t a terrible idea from what I can tell on mine

 

If you put in 4hi, is the vibration still there? I’m curious to see if the same symptoms are present. When my needle bearing on the Tacoma went out, putting it in 4wd solved the issues. How I knew it was the front diff bearing.I’m just trying to gauge similarities between the two.

 

4hi doesn’t change a thing. 90% my vibes from my rear drive shaft. The needle bearing play is something I noticed just doing my normal checking around under the truck. One day I’ll find the time to pull the rear shaft and see if the shakes gone

 

For sure. In my experience cv’s (driver diff side) will have some play in them, ecgs replacement or not. Nothing to be worried about. Are you lifted in the rear? Tried shims (~3*)? Axle wrap? Etc?

 

Drive line angles are good. It’s a 2” lift out back. Not too worried about it. Comes and goes at 30-45mph just like the needle bearing vibe tacos love to do. But feels like the rear. Trucks got other issues I need to deal with first. Like my door.. lol

It shakes at 75-85 too. But smooths out above that as well (no I don’t do 90 everywhere, this was me seeing if the vin stopped or got better) might be a resonance thing

 

You probably know this, but the rule of thumb is if you feel it in the pedals and steering wheel it’s front end vibes. If you feel it in your seat, it is usually in the rear.

 

yup. i am WELL acquainted with driveline vibes being a dealer tech. the ol 2nd gen tacos keep me busy to this day. 3rd gens too.. but not nearly as much of an issue.

 

The needle bearing is more of a grumble than a vibration.

Putting it in 4x put pressure on the CV and the grumble goes away. At least it does on the Tacomas. But the Tacomas are 8” diffs and not 7.5’s. Maybe different affects.

 

1st gen tacomas will exhibit the same issues as 2nd gen tacos. not as common on the 7.5" though.

i've had a fair few 2nd gen tacos with noticeable vibes from the needle bearings. but almost all of them are 3" lifted trucks.

 

Thanks for the replies, everyone. From what I’ve been hearing, reading, etc., it’s nice to hear that the diff bearing isn’t a real issue when raising the fronts of our trucks. Now I’ve got to find some time to try out the 887’s and record the lift heights. Might be a while.

 

Please be sure to post before/after center-to-fender measurements in the thread @assassin10000 linked in the 5th reply above, it'll be really interesting for a few of us.

 

You can count on that.

edit: might be a little while until I get to it.

 

Little update, last night I ordered up 5100’s for the front, 5125’s for the rear and I went with icon aal’s. Also ordered up the correct front spring isolators because the 28xx’s are about 1/4” smaller in diameter than the stock springs. The 887’s were on my Tacoma for about two years, so they settled a lot. I’m curious about where I’ll end up for lift height.
Current stock (01 O/R access cab 4x4 4.7 trd supercharger auto trans) hub to fender measurements:

DF: 19.75”
PF: 19.85”
DR: 22.5”
PR: 22.5”