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PPF is it really worth it...

Discussion in 'Detailing' started by Blufin, Aug 1, 2023.

  1. Aug 1, 2023 at 7:55 AM
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    Blufin

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    Is it worth the extra coin to drop on a vehicle to prevent road love AKA damage.
    I my years I learned that over time this film will shrink and crack also leaves that definitive line of where it begins and ends and is more of a hindrance.
    Is there anyone here that has had this applied to one or more of there vehicles if so I'd like to know what your experience is with it.

    Many thanks in advance.
     
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    Quality xpel or similar ppf applied by a qualified installer will not shrink, peel or crack and should give you at least 10 years of service. Make sure they fold as many of the edges as possible that way there are less visible edges. I had ppf installed on my 2010 Camry when it was new and it's still on and looks great. If nothing else at least get the hood and front fenders done, other than the cost you won't regret it.
     
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    PPF is a great way to burn through $7,500, that's about it. Like Euro said, it's great for luxury cars and customers with too much cash.
     
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    I think it depends on your driving habits. My wife tends to tailgate, so her vehicles end up with a lot of road debris damage on the front end. PPF is definitely worth it for her vehicles, IMO.

    I intentionally avoid tailgating. I just traded in a 2015 Tundra with 150K miles for a new one. It had exactly 3 tiny chips in the paint on the front end, so PPF isn't really necessary on my rigs.
     
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    It’s worth it when:

    1. You’ll keep it for at least 5 or more years.

    2. If you have dark colored paint and you
    obsess over swirls or scratches.

    3. You do full PPF and not partial. I did partial in the tundra and it looked bad, full on the raptor looked so much better. And I don’t mean full vehicle but I’d you do where there’s a seam running in the middle of a body panel
     
  6. Aug 1, 2023 at 9:12 AM
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    This shop is certified X Pel & his shop is disgustingly clean beyond belief, and I thought that was I was bad with keeping things by the numbers & tight.
    I have been there three times and each visit there has been exotic cars getting various love.
    Anyhow he did my ceramic tinting perfectly and he offered to do the PPF.
    My appointment is next week which took 1 month to lock in and I'm getting cold feet.
     
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    Yes, I feel it is worth it. Particularly with our Tundra "soft" paint. I also used it underneath the bed caps when I put my DiamondBack tonneau cover on my truck. It is also on the front of my hood and over my headlights. Both still look great.
     
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    weird, it has stopped many a rock chip for me?
     
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    I’d love to do matte xpell ppf on my tundra, but alas it’s a waste of money
     
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    +1 for PPF. I had it on my previous Tundras and of course on my Tesla. Fender wells, whole front hood, front bumper, rockers. On the Tundra, I also added it under the door handles. Be sure you correct the paint before it is applied for better adhesive.
     
  11. Aug 1, 2023 at 10:24 AM
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    The facility where I mainly work at has 600+ employees and there is an array of toyo's from late to present in years old and noticed the newer ones 10 yrs and younger have a shit ton more damage than the older one's.
    I'm not going down that rabbit hole and taking surveys in asking distance from A 2 B or do you gate people ect. because it will vary in every direction including not being 100% truthful.

    I have seen some cars and 1 truck with PPF and there is no visible spreading or migrating of chips.I didn't ask what brand they used but just noticed there was a difference between the two with/without.
     
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    I like it, I've had it on 2 of my Audi's(A6 and S5(current)) and I keep them a long time... I typically get it put on front facing items, bumpers, front fenders, A-pillars, hood, mirrors, lights, door handle cups on all 4 doors and steps into the vehicle (and on the audi's on the trunk bumper shelf) - The 2 tundras I had before, I didn't put it on. I kept each for 11 yrs. I noticed the headlights yellowing and stone chips galore on the bumper/hood on those 2 vehicles. On the Audi's and the '23 Tundra(so far) no chips, and on my A6 that I had for almost 10 yrs, no yellowing of the headlights. The yellowing seems to happen, when the very thin protective coating on the headlights is worn thru from abrasion from sand/etc off the road kicked up by other vehicles, then the sun yellows the now unprotected plastic underneath. With ppf, that doesn't seem to happen in my experience. I always have it put on by an xpel qualified shop. And like the other guy posted, the new one I go to now, has very high end cars in his super clean shop when I was last there with the Tundra, he was working on a GT3 Porsche... doing a full wrap and tint. what a sweet car!
     
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    Cool.
    you said it serves no purpose, I was just pointing out that it does in fact serve a purpose.
     
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    Ok i will play.
    I have a truck.
    It has ppf.
    It has prevented many rock chips that will enentually rust, looks like shit, bother me and decrease resale value.
    Ppf serves a purpose on trucks.
     
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    Will paint chips decrease resale value by PPF cost? (XPEL $7,500-$10,000 installed by REPUTABLE shop)
     
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    Depending on severity if they use a rating scale, but could turn off the right buyer
     
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    Lmao the read is pretty funny but I'm just asking here,no need to get bent over this.
    Don't really need this to get derailed.
    People can argue over which color is better it all comes down to preference.
    I honestly just wanna know your thoughts on it's ability to work or not.
    Lol WTF.
    Don't care if it's on a stupid moped or an articulated front loader...
     
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    It works moderately well. Whether it is a cost effective means of mitigating rock chips is up to you.
     
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    I'd be surprised to see $7,500 in damage caused by rock chips or daily driving alone on a Toyota Tundra. If we're talking exotics, then sure you can easily spend that getting paint corrected. But that's not the target question or audience of OP's post IMO.
     
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    My experience is with $500 worth off PPF on the front end of my truck. It has prevented many rock chips.
     
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    Oh, I agree. I was just speaking in general.
     
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    Not a ppf installer but have removed a lot of it :frusty:
    The new materials are much better than before as far as longevity and self healing. I have been tinting daily for close to 20 years but do not enjoy the ppf installs ….if I had a super nice vehicle …maybe but I drive a truck and kind of treat it like one.
    My friend who does do ppf installs …always says ‘it’s a road condom for road herpes!’
     
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    my full front expel was $2k. Headlights, hood, flares, grille, bumper, mirror covers.

    and then what wasn’t PPF was ceramic coated
     
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    Define "to work". Therein lies the subjective assessment problem of whether or not to recommend it. What is "to work" for you??
     
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    My price for ppf for those similar items was about $2k as well. And I had the rest ceramic coated.
     
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    I hear ya big dawg,thought I had mentioned it earlier.
    From what I have noticed on other people's vehicles,the road rash and with a couple of good dings and with that damage is right down to bear metal = major suckage...
    Which over time opens the flood gates to chipping more and of course rust ect.
    Here in N.E. they tend to over salt the roads like a poor buffet so I'm all set with that.
    Yeah I know this isn't going to be a plasma force field/shield (like what Bose is making) but if I could "prevent " most of the shit from making my front end looking like a leper I'm all for it.

    Talk about 6° of separation this guy who is going to do this we actually knew of each other threw mutual friends and also family, so I have that going for me.
    It's going to be just under 1,400 with whole front end no side view mirrors (tow mirrors) and the left overs are not going to waste, he will put it on my thresholds and I'm still on the fence for the inside cups of the door handles.
     
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    Thanks for the information! I think you probably already know that nothing is going to make your truck bullet proof and the PPF is no exception. If you work/play your truck hard, you will more than likely be disappointed. If you are like most of us who work/play our trucks light to medium, it just may be worth it to you in the long run. Good luck to you in making your decision. By the way, I did read your earlier post but "road love", etc., leaves a lot to the imagination.
     
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    Thanks for the in put it is greatly appreciated.
     
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    Yes. It works. Never had a problem with cracking, spreading or anything else. And there is no need to spend $7,500 for some film on the hood and under the handles. If you intend to do rock crawling give it a pass.
     
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