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Slow shift from first to second intermittently hard shift first to second when accelerating fast

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by Lalo805, May 13, 2023.

  1. May 13, 2023 at 5:13 AM
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    I have a 2006 tundra double cab 2wd, a year ago I blew up the diff doing donuts in the dunes and I just recently replaced it with a new one it was sitting in the same spot the entire time, I would turn it on bi weekly to keep the fluids circulating. After test driving it I noticed the shifting issue so now I don’t accelerate hard from first to second. How long do I have until it completely fails and would a drain and fill with Toyota world standard and a liter of the Lucas transmission fix help at all or just use straight world standard
     
  2. May 13, 2023 at 5:19 AM
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    Hard to say. I’ve always had the delayed 1st to 2nd shift issue for years but not the hard shift when accelerating. I’d still think it was a solenoid issue but I’m no expert. I’d be tempted to open it up and replace the solenoids myself but that isn’t a trivial task.
     
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  3. May 13, 2023 at 5:23 AM
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    It has 160k I believe I did a flush around 90k but I treated the truck badly I was 19 when I bought it with 59k miles but now I’m mature and I’ve been babying in for the past 5 years should I try the drain and fill with the additive?
     
  4. May 13, 2023 at 5:31 AM
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    IDK, I’ve tried AutoRx for my tranny to try and fix the delayed shift and it did nothing. I couldn’t tell you about the Lucas stuff since I haven’t used it. I would definitely recommend another drain and fill if it hasn’t been done in a while.
     
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  5. May 13, 2023 at 5:35 AM
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    I think I’m going to do that and hope for the best
     
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    From what I’m reading, Lucas is just a temporary fix and won’t work for major seal leaks so it’s not a cure all.
     
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  7. May 13, 2023 at 6:28 AM
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    It’s not leaking… yet but I’ll try that and then the next step would be repairing it
    Should I have it rebuilt at a transmission shop or swap it out with a used one that has warranty in case it fails or just get a remanufactured one
     
  8. May 13, 2023 at 6:31 AM
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    You need to do a drain and fill or full fluid swap, but you need to check the level properly. Use WS or amsoil fuel efficient atf, don’t bother with any additives
     
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  9. May 13, 2023 at 6:41 AM
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    I’m afraid a full fluid flush I don’t know if it’ll react well to all that new fluid or is that only for cvt transmission?
     
  10. May 13, 2023 at 6:48 AM
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    Yeah, I missed the part on where it helps with stuck solenoids. I’d be inclined to goto a reputable transmission shop (no chain places) and price it out against a used one. You usually get a 1 year warranty with a rebuilt tranny and it’s got new instead of used parts.
     
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    I wouldn’t “flush” it, but a full fluid swap using the trans internal pump shouldn’t cause any harm. Lots of write ups, but the fluid level check is important since our shift boxes don’t have a dip stick
     
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    So should I have it diagnosed professionally if the fluid flush doesn’t help? I can definitely remove and replace the transmission myself I would just make sure to buy a tranny with warranty
    I’m just seeing prices of 5-7k for a shop to rebuild my transmission I’d rather buy a new for 2k
     
  13. May 13, 2023 at 7:17 AM
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    Yeah I saw a video on a transmission drain and fill and how to set the truck into transmission temperature sense mode to add the right amount of fluid since they decided to remove the dipstick
     
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    That’s up to you. I think a diagnostic might be anywhere from free to a couple hundred bucks. I’m not sure if they do partial rebuilds or if it’s always complete. Might be worth investigating if they have any tools you don’t.
     
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    Does the 06 have a dip stick?

    what does the fluid look like?
     
  16. May 13, 2023 at 10:29 AM
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    No dip stick, sealed transmission for '05-06.

    I've always had a slow shift 1->2. So many others have reported this with the 5spd that I think I even put a note about it in the knowledge dump thread.

    It tends to be more noticeable on my '06 when cold. Or if warm and I turn it off long enough for all fluids to settle.

    But if you're worried, carry it in to a Toyota shop and have the transmission serviced (fluid flush + level check). Just don't take to a non-Toyota shop where they may use pressurized pump to push the fluid.
     
  17. May 14, 2023 at 9:10 PM
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    Wonder if it's anything like this? This is an earlier truck and my truck suffers the same problem.
    If you put the shifter in "2" from a stop and let it shift into 2nd on its own does the shift feel smoother?
     
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    When cold I have a delayed 2-3 shift. This is the ECU trying to bring the trans fluid up to temp (ie: normal afaik).
     
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    I can second this, I would say my 05 has a slower shift from 1 to 2. However, it doesn't do it when accelerating heavy. Every other shift is quick and smooth, smoother than most newer cars I have driven. I have always just assumed the "slower" shift is normal for the 1-2 shift, its always consistent.
     
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    Our trucks and their personalities! For me, when cold, 1-2 shifts early and 2-3 shifts late.

    OP, if it's not "slamming" into gear, you're probably ok, but do what others suggested and do a drain and fill. My condolences to your lack of a dip-stick.
     
  21. May 17, 2023 at 11:12 AM
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    You've got 4spd AT, Jordan and I have 5spd AT.

    It's possible I've been unaware of the 1-2 shift if it's early, but there will be times when I turn out of my driveway and start to accelerate where the truck will climb up around 3k before finally upshifting when cold. It's always been that way.
     
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    Ah, valid point, but it's a similar situation. There are times where I hit around 3k before it shifts, too, and I also recall the 1-2 being late and 2-3 being early until after I did a couple drain & fills and changed the filter.
     
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    I feel like when mine is cold, it always shifts a little different, but feel like that's how any car is pulling out of the driveway. I have never worried about it, but have seen many choose to do drain and fills. At 165k miles, I doubt mine has ever been changed. Havent made up my mind if I will drain and fill eventually lol
     

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