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Talk me out of a p rated tire

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by Zum, Sep 3, 2019.

  1. Sep 3, 2019 at 5:07 PM
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    Zum

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    Thinking of trying the wildpeak At3w 265 70 18 tire.
    Not totally because of the price either.
    I don't tow much, around 2000lbs and with this truck havnt been on any sled roads in awhile(find the trees scratch it real easy). Other then dirt roads and farming fields most of my driving is pavement.
    I do have some 5100s to install but not going above the middle setting.
    I'm thinking price, weight and a E rated tire might be overkill for what I do daily,....opinions?
     
  2. Sep 3, 2019 at 5:13 PM
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    If you aren't going over rough terrain or pulling a heavy load, you're probably making the right decision. You'll save $ on gas, $ on tires, and have a softer ride.

    Sorry I didn't talk you out of it.
     
  3. Sep 3, 2019 at 5:19 PM
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    tacomawv

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    I have the same tires. Tow 3000 pounds a lot. Never had any problems.
     
  4. Sep 3, 2019 at 5:38 PM
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    Idk isn't this like saying it's better to have a fire extinguisher amd not need it then to not have one at all. I really would want a truck to be able to go pick up a trailor for a friend or pull a camper with. Then to say it could but I need to go get some tires first :crapstorm::popcorn:
     
  5. Sep 3, 2019 at 5:41 PM
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    :rolleyes: These trucks are rated to pull 10k pounds with P metric tires.
     
  6. Sep 3, 2019 at 5:43 PM
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    I see well we all learn something new everyday then why is the OP concerned?
     
  7. Sep 3, 2019 at 5:49 PM
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    So the E rate tire would be more for an off road application I'm just confused because I was told when I bought my 35s 2 yrs ago that they need to be E rated because I pull a camper os this right then ?
     
  8. Sep 3, 2019 at 6:08 PM
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    We have P rated Nittos on the wifes T4R. I'm not digging it. Feels kind of squirrely. Yeah the ride is softer, but for us not worth it. My wife isn't a fan either.
     
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  9. Sep 3, 2019 at 6:09 PM
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    Watching this one. Looking at the same tires (had them before and loved them) but keeping the P rating.
     
  10. Sep 3, 2019 at 6:14 PM
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    I recognize reverse psychology when I see it. Nobody here is interested in saving money, gas, or tires! Your points all lead us away from that logical crap!
    :rofl:
     
  11. Sep 3, 2019 at 6:38 PM
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    Did realize I could still tow that much with a p rated tire, thx for the information.
    The wife and I did tent labour day weekend and I keep thinking maybe I'll buy a smaller trailer one of these years. Three nights on the ground, down to 46 degrees one night...getting older makes me soft.
    Even if I bought a small trailer we only tent 4/5 times a year, havnt gone far; 300 miles return.
    Thanks for the quick replies, nothing yet to scare me from buying them.
    Actually in reverse...the 10k tow....
     
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  12. Sep 3, 2019 at 6:39 PM
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    Still looking p rated 10 k tow seems hight to me but idk.
     
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  13. Sep 3, 2019 at 6:42 PM
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    I recently "downgraded" from E rated Toyo R/T to P rated Cooper AT3 4S. No regrets. They don't look as bad ass, but much quieter, better riding, and improved MPG by around 2. They were cheaper too.
     
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    What size tire?
    Looking for the tallest p rated tire...tallest I've found is the 265 70 18.
     
  15. Sep 3, 2019 at 6:48 PM
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    If you are not towing or hauling heavy loads P rated might be good option but consider I have never had a flat with a LT or D or E.
     
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  16. Sep 3, 2019 at 7:09 PM
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    The P rated tires you picked have a load rating of 2756 lbs (each). Therefore your rear tire max load rating would be 5512 lbs. Since a Tundra rear axle s only rated at 4150 lbs max load, you would max out your rear axle before you came close to overloading the tires. Tundras come stock with P rated tires as well, so that tells you that you can tow the rated amount with P rated tires.
     
  17. Sep 3, 2019 at 7:12 PM
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    ricsha

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    Sorry to disagree, but Trucks should have Truck Tires, not passenger car tires. Shame on Toyota, and all other manufacturers who send 1/2 Ton trucks out the door with car tires.
     
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    When I was tire shopping I had the choice between P and LT tires. I choose P rated tires because the max load rating was above what my truck could tow anyways, so I stuck with P rated to save some money on tires. In the up coming year or so, ill pay my truck off, get a leveling kit, and be getting some LT tires to fit my driving habits better.
     
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    I have both P275/65R18's and LT275/70R18's, and I know which I like for highway driving, and I know which I like for bush roads and rocky terrain. I know which ones I'm comfortable wrapping in V-bar tire chains, and I also know which ones the oil companies like me to run, and which ones a financial advisor would recommend.

    Tires are ALL about trade-offs, so pick your poison. It's not like a P275/65R18 is underrated for you Tundra.
     
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    I'm on 20s, 275/60R20
     
  21. Sep 3, 2019 at 8:05 PM
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    I run stock wheels and tires when I’m around town or if I need to tow my 8x12 trailer. Lt 275/70 nitto trail grapplers when I go out in the woods on forest roads. Stock tires are a much more pleasant ride and get better gas mileage. They look like a grandpa truck when they’re on though...

    I don’t care. I get to daily drive a tundra
     
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    It seems that people think an LTE Tire has a stronger sidewall than a P.
    Though, in fact, most of the tires we use be it LTE or P have a 3 ply sidewall.
    An LTE Tire does have a higher load range than a p metric tire but that doesn’t mean it’s better for off-roading.

    Most of the bigger sizes we use only come in an LT rating. And a lot of tires like all terrain and mud terrain do have extra and unconventional material in the sidewall so that they are more puncture resistant because the sidewall is the last thing I’d want to damage when I’m out Rock crawling my truck.
     
  23. Sep 3, 2019 at 8:58 PM
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    I’m absolutely biased against P tires.

    Reason being I had some brand new Bridgestone Duelers on my truck when I bought it.....those things lasted 20k miles. This is right before I bought my LT rated tires.

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    That being said.....no tire is created equal. Other name brands may have more durable P rated tires, but I would rather not take the chance, personally.
     
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    I only have C rated tires currently(kevlar wrangler), on the truck when I bought it. Terrible in snow but to be fair the tread is pretty low.
    I think most manufacturers sell their trucks with p rated tires, I'm not reading or seeing anything in the news about failure do to cheap(unsafe?) tires. Just wondering what your basing your opinion on?
    For me the tread depth is a little less than a E rated tire so mileage and maybe winter (snow) driving might be something to consider?
     
  25. Sep 4, 2019 at 10:31 AM
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    I'm not a tire professional, but I know one, and trust his opinion based on 30 years in the tire business. He tells me that if I never intend to haul, or tow, or drive on gravel roads,or drive off-road, I can stay with the P rated tires my Tundra came with and enjoy a smoother ride... Do any of the above, use my truck as a truck, and I need heavier duty tires, thicker tread, tougher sidewalls, for the piece of mind knowing that the LT tires will stand up to the added abuse.

    For me it's worth it to have Truck tires on my Truck. Personal opinion only, but based on recommendations of a trusted professional. Your experience may vary.
     
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    I burn them up in a year

    If you dont drive like you stole it then P rated is good.

    I turn a corner and shave a mm off
     
  27. Sep 4, 2019 at 10:43 AM
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    This is one concern for me...the tires are warranted though,so u would think they would last 75% of that.
     
  28. Sep 4, 2019 at 11:53 AM
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    Pro rated which means you will get half off the other set.
    Mine are P rated now that the dealer slapped on it and I am already looking at tires for it.

    Trying to baby them but my driving habits are terrible
     
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    I think I'm going to go with a 265/70_17 vs the 285/70-17. Just a bit narrower and smaller. Should be hardly noticeable.Screenshot_20190904-213119_Chrome.jpg
     
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