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Towing 38' trailer at 8600 lbs+fuel/water/people

Discussion in 'Towing & Hauling' started by BC.Austex, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. Sep 24, 2019 at 8:08 PM
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    BC.Austex

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    I have a 2014 CrewMax, tow capacity 10k. Looking at Springdale 38 BH trailer, loaded will be 9500 lbs. While this is our first travel trailer, at 95% capacity, I'm concerned this is pushing too close to max weight? What do I need to be aware of?
     
  2. Sep 24, 2019 at 8:20 PM
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    That’s a lot of weight dude. I tow around 8000 and it pushes the truck around a bit. You would usually want to leave a larger buffer but you should be ok as long as you take it slow and leave space for stopping. Also maybe use an aftermarket brake controller as the tundra integrated one is weak.
     
  3. Sep 24, 2019 at 8:25 PM
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    No way. Bigger truck or smaller trailer. That's what will happen.
     
  4. Sep 25, 2019 at 7:41 AM
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    Bammer I'm disinclined to acquiesce your request.

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    Trailer TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BIGGGGGGGGGGGGGG !
     
  5. Sep 25, 2019 at 8:49 AM
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    Too much trailer, I wouldn't do it.
     
  6. Sep 25, 2019 at 8:55 AM
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    That's too big in my opinion. Even if youre in limits, it will not be an enjoyable experience towing it at all. It will be an absolutely stressful chore. Small items will add up your weight fast, and you will be over without even knowing it. Trailers are rated with not a damn thing in it. (Chairs, tables, dishes, food, ice chest, propane, sewage, tools, kids bring a friend/ toys, etc.)
     
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  7. Sep 25, 2019 at 8:56 AM
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    Compare your loaded tongue weight + all cargo / passengers in your truck against the truck’s payload capacity.
     
  8. Sep 25, 2019 at 9:00 AM
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    I live fulltime in our 30FT TT. Total weight is 9,300LBS. We tow about 20 miles a day, every day. We are properly weighted. A 12K weight distribution hitch, 2 sway brakes and the stock brake controller.

    We feel very confident with towing behind the Tundra.

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    We have also added sumosprings and a custom leaf pack.
     
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  9. Sep 25, 2019 at 9:06 AM
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    This is right on.

    The reason we got the Tundra last year was to avoid the stressful towing. I towed our current trailer with my Tacoma for six years and by the end, my wife and I were done. I started working her for a Tundra year five and after a scary mountain tow, she gave in on the way home.

    I don't know your experience towing, but 38ft is a huge first trailer. If I had to tow a trailer that big now, I'd go back to tent camping.
     
  10. Sep 25, 2019 at 9:07 AM
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    Have no doubt the truck would pull it. Heck it would probably “pull” 14k#, stopping it and the feeling of it pushing you around would be very uneasy. But That’s too close for comfort for me so you wouldn’t catch me doing it. Would be diff if it was a one time move or 1-2 a year move.
     
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  11. Sep 25, 2019 at 9:11 AM
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    I think it’s just fine. I’ve towed heavy and long too with absolutely no problems. Sounds like you know your stuff with balance and tongue weight. You’ll do great.
     
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  12. Sep 25, 2019 at 9:14 AM
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    I towed my racecar around a bunch when my Tundra was pretty much stock with a brake controller. Trailer weighed 9000+ lbs. It'd cruise at 80mph fine, and did a few 500-2000 mile trips without issue. You can tow that weight totally fine, I'd be concerned with the length and getting pushed around by wind or other big vehicles disturbing the air and moving it around. If you're smart about driving and not hauling ass I bet you'd be fine.
     
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  13. Sep 25, 2019 at 9:20 AM
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    I think there's a difference between whether the Tundra could pull it and whether it's smart to max it out for your first travel trailer.

    Maybe he's headed to the local KOA or living in it. That's different than a road trip out west.
     
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  14. Sep 25, 2019 at 9:42 AM
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    I will say I would never go bigger that what we currently have.
     
  15. Sep 28, 2019 at 2:59 PM
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    That sure is a lot of trailer behind you.

    I would rent the biggest trailer you can for a trip out and see what you think.

    I wish someone would have given me this advice 5 years ago.
     
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  16. Sep 28, 2019 at 3:06 PM
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    To much trailer IMO, you need to move up to a 3/4ton if your actually going to go on trips with it or a smaller trailer. If your only pulling local then it probably wont matter much.
     
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  17. Sep 28, 2019 at 3:20 PM
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    Too much. The length of the trailer alone will not be friendly to a half ton truck. IMHO, anything bigger than 33’ is 3/4 ton of bigger territory to tow it safely in any condition.
     
  18. Sep 28, 2019 at 3:48 PM
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    I had a 10,000lb 36’ travel trailer...and I used a 6.7L Powerstroke. Just because you can doesn’t mean you should...
     
  19. Sep 28, 2019 at 6:38 PM
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    I’m gonna try this! I’ve been wanting a trailer but don’t know where to start lol.
     
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  20. Sep 28, 2019 at 7:01 PM
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    I wish this was the route we went.
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    This 28’ camper that was within the limits of my CM, upper limits, was a hard pull in CO & NM.

    This is even more heavy than the camper.
    8F18416E-0D00-4C61-80C9-82A0997614AD.jpg

    The decision was made to go larger in truck. If I only would have purchased the smaller 23-24’ TT, I wouldn’t have had to spend the money on a new truck.
     
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    That’s a lot of trailer for sure! I want to start out with something smaller for sure to get used to it.
     
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  22. Sep 28, 2019 at 7:14 PM
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    It can be with wind and other weather elements. Research a thread “tough towing this go around” or something like that.

    Just imagine another 10’ on top of this camper pictured.
     
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  23. Sep 28, 2019 at 9:07 PM
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    By the owners' manual, my '13 CM Limited with tow pkg and nothing else extra, has a max tow wt of 9300#. I think you're pushing it to close, especially since this is your first TT.. Don't know where you plan to tow, but I've pulled 53' trailers driving 18 wheelers, and the winds in the west (CO front range) can be ferocious, and the grades unforgiving if you're not careful. That 38 footer behind your half ton is like a huge sail back there. You're gonna feel it big time.

    I also question your 9500# loaded weight. The specs on the trailer say 8750# dry weight, 56 gal fresh water tank, 60 gal propane tank. Fill those two up and your already at 9450# and nothing else in the trailer yet.
     
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    My wife and I have been trailer shopping and today came across EXACTLY what we want, but think it is too big. It's the Wolfpack 27PACK10. Dry weight is 7988, and 33' total length.

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    That's the way a properly set up combo should look. Did you set up the WDH yourself?
     
  26. Oct 31, 2021 at 2:12 PM
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    Yes I did. My Equalizer was maxed out. I rode rather rough and if you look closely, the back was still sagging a little bit. I should have just went up in bar size to the 1200/12000 lb ones and had minimal adjustment.
     
  27. Nov 1, 2021 at 8:35 PM
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    I agree that's too big for a halfton, even one with more payload and a higher towing capacity than the Tundra. Either a smaller trailer or a 3500 is in your future.
     
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    My wife wanted a larger trailer until she found one she really like and thank goodness it was only 23' and 6080 GVWR.
     
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