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Toy hauling

Discussion in 'Towing & Hauling' started by TundraKid760, Dec 31, 2020.

  1. Dec 31, 2020 at 12:16 AM
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    TundraKid760

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    [​IMG] I recently got a new toy hauler dry weight about 7000lbs and I have a bike and a hisun strike 250, the truck is a 2012 tundra base 5.7l crewcab 2wd, it has a S&B COD, Doug thorley headers, same year TRD pro exhaust, DK boxed upper control arms, king shocks 2.5 reservoirs up front and 2.0 in the back with reservoirs and I’m going to be adding air bags for extra support anything else I should put? Total weight with the toys around 10000lbs do you guys think it can handle?
     
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  2. Dec 31, 2020 at 4:52 AM
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    jeremyd

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    post a pic! I wanna see.
     
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  3. Dec 31, 2020 at 4:59 AM
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    I tow 8k lbs worth of tractor and trailer on occasion with no issues but it doesn't have the aerodynamic prowess of a cinder block like the campers/trailers do. Our current camper is only 5600 loaded and with airbags and a WDH you feel it. The new one we're getting is claimed 7,600 loaded. We accounted for our bodyweight, our gliders, gear, clothes, food, etc. and we're going to be over 8k which I'm not thrilled about but we drive slow af the one time per year we use it. If you don't already have a weight distribution hitch, I'd highly recommend you get one.
    You can tow anything, any weight, at least once. If you're brave enough. What is the tongue weight? Are you taking fuel and gear into account on payload? Etc Etc Etc.. If you already bought the toy hauler, my guess is you're going to tow it anyways so airbag and WDH it and try to not kill anyone while you're driving that thing around.

    Edit: There's a ton of towing threads on the forum, look for some. There's a bunch with some good info on them and people with experiences towing various different stuff.
     
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  4. Dec 31, 2020 at 5:06 AM
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    GODZILLA

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    As far as "can it handle it?" Well, it'll pull it if that's what you mean, but you are likely going to be quite a bit over your payload rating. It'll be pretty white knuckle in the wind, down hill, or getting passed by big trucks with lots of turbulence. If you decide to do it anyway you should definitely get a Weight Distributing Hitch. It'll do more for you than air bags. They just level the sag in the rear, but the WDH does exactly what it says it does. Lots of info on towing, and some guys on here tow a bunch, but the ones who tow heavy and often have mostly upgraded to a 3/4 or 1 ton truck. The Tundra just can't compete with the payloads on the HD trucks.

    Regardless of what you are towing or towing with, always remember: Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast. Leave early and drive slower than you think you should. It'll be much easier to control at 55-65 MPH than 75-80.
     
  5. Dec 31, 2020 at 7:24 AM
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    That load will be well beyond the weights the truck was designed for. But, hit any interstate and you will see people towing well beyond the tow vehicle's limits. Like others said- WDH is required, do not try to "bumper pull" that much. Since you are adding airbags, do some research on setting up whatever WHD with airbags. I am pretty sure you set up the WHD first (with airbags at minimum pressure) to get the truck as level as possible and then add air to the bags to for final level.

    Stay safe and slow as Azure suggested. That is a heavy pull, even in ideal conditions. Add wind, rain, heavy braking or elevation changes and white knuckles are a given. And know, if something does go awry and you are in an accident, highway patrol and whoever else involved in the accident are likely going to fault you for being overloaded=lawsuit.

    I ran an overloaded tow once. Picked up a 72 Lemans in NC and towed it back home to VA with a v6 Trooper with a 5k rating. Car was about 3200lbs, trailer was another 1800-2k, then the Trooper was loaded with stuff, so I was about 1000 lbs over, no WDH. It was one of the worse drives in my life, quite scary at times and caused transmission issues on the Trooper afterward. Be prepared to perform additional maintenance or repairs as the Tundra will be stressed pulling that, especially repeatedly. Good luck and stay safe!
     
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  6. Dec 31, 2020 at 8:01 AM
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    You are going to be way over capacity.

    Toy haulers are built heavy in the front to accommodate heavy toys leveraged so far over the rear axle and maintain tongue weight.

    Even if you managed to stay under 10000 pounds which is very unlikely you are going to be wayyyy over payload because of the tongue weight.

    As mentioned above, lots of people run around over weight. It's generally a really bad idea and can have legal liability issues in the event something goes wrong. Murphy's law is exponential to the risk you are taking.

    Your biggest issue will be that the truck is simply going to be manhandled by that trailer regardless of the mods you install.
     
  7. Dec 31, 2020 at 8:20 AM
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  8. Dec 31, 2020 at 8:21 AM
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    As everyone else has mentioned, it’s not a good idea. Wait for the first crosswind to nearly throw you into a ditch, and you’ll never go max anything when hauling.

    The biggest thing hurting you are the dimensions of the truck combined with the size of your load.
     
  9. Dec 31, 2020 at 11:10 AM
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    Thank you! From California United States
     
  11. Dec 31, 2020 at 1:28 PM
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    If you’re in so cal and plan on hauling that to dunes you’ve got some pretty good grades to go up and down. If San Diego, your brakes will be smoked on the grade on your way there, transmission on way back. If LA area same thing a little west of Palm Springs.

    I picked up a toy hauler many years ago from a buddy that was a smoking deal. It was about 8500 loaded. Pulled it with a 97 silverado w 350. Trailer was too much for it. Pulled it to dunes 2x from El Centro. Flat road more or less. After that I’d only t as Le it to superstition, also flat but only 15 miles away.
    Used to pull it w a 3/4 ton silverado but divorce....... long time ago, toyhauler and silverados long gone.

    that looks like too much trailer for a half ton.
     
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  12. Jan 1, 2021 at 6:07 AM
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    I pull a 8500 lbs bumper pull camper. The tundra rated for 10,500 lbs with certain factory options. I have had no issues pulling my camper with my tundra. I always make sure the tow mode is activated. I also will have the transmission serviced yearly just to make sure it stays well maintained.
     
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  13. Jan 1, 2021 at 6:52 AM
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    Those are nice trailers but way to big for me.
    jkhggc k.jpg
     
  14. Jan 1, 2021 at 9:06 AM
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    Ya, that trailer is way too big for a Tundra. Especially loaded. Now you need a Diesel.:rofl::rofl:
     
  15. Jan 1, 2021 at 9:42 AM
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    Trailer way to big!
     
  16. Jan 1, 2021 at 9:48 AM
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    uhh.. no.. as others have said, that is way too much trailer for the Tundra. Modifications do no change GVWR. You will be way over payload. In fact, all your mods are going to lower your payload. Time for a 3/4 ton.
     
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  17. Jan 1, 2021 at 9:51 AM
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    If you do tow that i would truly hope you only hurt yourself in a case of a wreck, that is true
    Negligence.
     
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    I’m in the same boat. I’m in the search for a 3/4 ton truck now. Tundra is weak on payload.
     

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