V6 turbo thoughts

So I’m going to buy my first Tundra when I find what I want, prefer the v8. I have been doing alot of research and looking at the v6 turbos, if I understand correctly it’s the same engine that has been used in the Lexus in past years so thinking it should be proven? I completely agree nothing beats the v8…thoughts / feedback on the v6? Thanks in advance

 

There's been a small number of reported failures with that TTV6 (somewhere around 40-50 on this forum), and everyone seems to think they've got it figured out. Only time will tell.

I personally just bought my 2018 (with the 5.7 V8), mostly because the price point on later 2.5 gens, is just so much better than the new 3rd Gens. My second largest factor in that decision was the proven reliability, and longevity of the V8 though.

The TTV6 might end up being pretty solid, but it will never be DIY fix-friendly, like the V8, and there's certainly more expensive parts that can break with the addition of forced induction. And the increased fuel mileage with the V6 ends up to be very minor if you choose to lift the truck and fit bigger tires (and I think the new ones only look good if you do exactly that).

I scored my 2018 Platinum Crewmax 4wd with 67k miles for only $36k, and an equally trimmed 3rd Gen would cost well more than 2x that, for like 5 extra mpg (at best). 2.5 Gen with the V8 all the way

 

V8! But I just love older stuff.....04 tacoma...2019 tundra owner...just sayin

 

Not worth $60-$75K plus. I had the money but I still got a V8. This is my second Tundra and I am thinking about getting one more V8 if I can find a low mileage under 5000

 

Nice

I've got an '03 Xtra cab Tacoma with an Eaton E-locker for my hunting truck, and daily my 2018 Tundra. Best Tundra/Tacoma generations is 2.5 Gen/1st Gen

 

While there have been reports of 3rd gen failures it is about .5% of all tundras built to date. So a very small percentage. And Toyota is going all in on this motor with various types being used across Lexus and Toyota. I’m sure the TTV6 will never be as reliable as a NA V8 but Toyota has been doing turbos and hybrids for a very long time now and seem to have figure it out for the most part. I’m not saying to buy a 3rd gen by any means but test drive both and see what you like best. 3rd gen will be more expensive but you are getting alot more tech inside vs the 2nd gen and dealers are starting to discount them heavily. I’ve been happy with my 3rd gen since having it (only owned it for a little over a month) but it’s been a big step up from 3rd gen Tacoma. Outgrew the Tacoma and needed a longer bed so naturally looked at the tundra. That being said, if the 2 gen would have been available at the time I was buying this truck I would have bought one no problem. But as others have stated don’t buy a 3rd gen if you expect good gas mileage. It’s a 6000+ pound block with crappy aerodynamics, it won’t get good gas mileage but you will be able to get a couple mpg better than the 2nd gen

 

My22 Tundra Ltd has been great. Only have 16000 miles but it is in a different league from prior gens. The engine is very refined and pulls so much stronger than prior gens. In sport mode it absolutely rips up the pavement. I drive in town with stop and go driving 90% of the time. I get 15-15.5 compared to 11-12 on prior gens. Highway I get 18-20 if I keep speed under 70mph. I have owned 12 Toyotas and they just use better quality parts and have good engineering compared to other brands I have owned. My 05 Sequoia just turned 300000 this week and runs like it did when I bought with 39k on it. I’m clearly a fan and believe the V6TT will be better than the competitions V6TT in the long run. Only time will reveal the truth.

 

yep, nothing beats the v8…..

except the ttv6 with 479 lbs torque at 2,400 rpm, it’s not even close in normal driving and especially towing , plus with the 10 speed behind it , it’s superior. The new tundra hands down tows better and more stable with the new fully boxed frame that’s 8” wider at the rear .

if you haul or tow get the load leveling rear as well, it’s awesome

to answer your question, a variation of this engine has been in the Lexus for years , not the type 21 v35, but it’s pretty darn similar

 

Buy a Gen2 V8 because there are x10 owners of them than Gen3. Old school rocks! Anything new has to be a mistake until it is proven years later. In years later you will wish you bought a Gen3 which unlike the Gen2 V8 will still be manufactured and current. Resist new and stay in the past - until you are 10 toes up - like the Gen2 V8.

 

My .02 is: I very much love forced induction on a recreational vehicle, have had a few that have been high value stress relief, fc rx7 being my favorite and least complicated, a 03 m3 with a 80mm precision turbo being the highest power most complicated. Every time I drove any of my toy cars I felt like the next big break was coming, the common thread for those cars was tweaking the driveline to the limit to push them faster. I feel like Toyota has sold a v6 that is already at that limit with high compression, direct injection and boost, hope I am wrong and it lasts several hundred thousand miles, only time will tell. For now natural aspiration only for my daily drivers. I am extremely curious what limits are on the ttv6, I imagine folks will be pushing the envelopes soon

 

I ended up trading in my MY22 Tundra because I found a low mileage MY21 DC with the TRD OR package in Cavalry Blue. The MY21 I recently bought was the truck I originally wanted when I was shopping back in late 2021. The market for used trucks was tough back then was tough (it's a lot better now...at least where I live).

I liked the 22 for all of the reasons on paper. It's fast. Transmission is smooth. I liked that the TRD OR package included a rear locker, crawl control, and several driving modes giving it a lot more "out of the box" trail capabilities than even the 2.5 Gen TRD Pros. I'm not going to knock the truck because I didn't have all of the issues with mine that some experienced.

However, I currently live about 60 miles from the nearest Toyota dealer. My wife and I are getting ready to move to a cabin, in what I hope, will be our retirement home (final move). It will be even more remote than where we live now. As a result, I had to truly ask myself which platform that I trusted to be more reliable in the long run and had offered more DIY repairability. I ended up deciding that the 5.7L V8 checked those boxes because it's a known quantity vs the 3.4L TT V6. The V6 might end up being just as rock solid as the V8 with a few more years of production under its belt. I don't think it's quite there yet.

When it came to my situation, I feel more comfortable with the known reliability of V8. I know if something were to fail...I'm much more comfortable working on a naturally aspirated V8 than a forced induction V6. Again, this my experience. YMMV.

 

I too was in the shoes your currently in,I joined and had asked questions about the new Tundra.
I was jumping ship from a Chevy V8,well I wasn't excited about the V6 TT but dug a little deeper and the 6 with a MG it delivers more power than the Toyoa million mile V8 I force.
With that said the gas mileage is better and will be better but you really can't screw with tires and suspension and wonder why the mileage sucks,yeah the has been catastrophic engine failures but it has been remedied, due to metal fragments not being cleaned out.
Yeah you'll miss the displacement sound of the V8 but you'll get over it in time.

Good luck man!

 

My last 6 trucks had Flownaster exhaust v-8 engines, so I was worried I’d miss the rumble. After moving to the TTV6 from a Chevy 5.3, the acceleration, torque, and turbo whistle made me not miss it, real quick.

 

The remaining or last V8s in trucks are very old original designs. Their are generally very inefficient in terms of the horsepower and torque per cubic inch. Comparing modem tech to old tech can be a personal matter and nostalgia certainly can come into play

Reliability issues due to defective manufacturing processes can occur to any engine family across its lifespan.. Some engine families are so old their manufacturing location to include even country of assembly has changed. Production issues are different from bad engineering or design.

 

I tow ~12,000 lbs all over the country with my V6TT, and it pulls better than any NA V8 I have towed with. I am coming off a 496CI big block chevy.

The TTV6 has lots of low end grunt, and when going through the mountains I can just shift to 4th-5th gear and run 3,000 RPM without any issue. I think its great so far.

 

Grab a V8, you'll sleep better!

 

Have two already and looking to grab a 3rd V8

 

Why only 3? There's plenty available!

 

I need a low mileage, under 5000.... I have a big family and I want them all to drive Tundra's

 

So what you mean is that you own the fuel stations near where your family members reside? Makes sense! Give them a million mile Tundra and 5 cents a gallon discount! You look like a great guy, they actually buy their own truck!

 

I think the 1st generation V8 Tundra is the best. Just look at those owners now - they just cause panic in the forums and have a great time. They're not worried about hp/tq numbers or fuel economy. Hell, I read a 1st gen towing forum the other day that devolved into a conversation about jerking off. https://www.tundras.com/threads/jerking-when-towing.139666/#post-3523479

I hope I can have that much fun one day. Maybe when the 4th generation Tundra comes out in 2037 the 2nd gen'rs can just have fun and the 3rd gen'rs can argue about how they just don't make them V6 turbos like they used to.

 

Not clicking that link or shaking your hand ill just take your word on it. lmao

 

Wife is in O&G and you're right we do have the goods, a significant fuel discount with CVX

 

Turbos are fun, I like the spool, I like the boost, I like the gas mileage when not using them. It’s very enjoyable and comfortable to drive. The 2.5 gen interior reminded me of my 2005 f-150 (which is fine, just hard to swallow for the price). For me it was paying 50k for a used 2018-2021 (which is way higher than jd power numbers) or 62k for an almost brand new one with all the cool bells and whistles and cameras. Even if I paid 2k for the extended warranty it would be a better value to me over a 2.5 gen.

 

Paying $50k for a 2.5 gen is way overpaying. I scored a 2018 Platinum with 67k miles with immaculate maintenance records for $36k. I can't see paying another $26k or more to get 3 extra mpg and an unproven powertrain

 

I’m on my 4th Tundra and by far this is the best version in my opinion.

I liked the 5.7 V8 but the Turbo V6 has more power and torque and way better gas mileage than my 5.7 V8 had. I have 21,000 miles on my 2022 model. Of course I knew I was buying into a new truck that had gone through a few bugs so I opted to buy an extended warranty from Toyota. I got a great price from a vendor that I found here. This helped sway my decision to purchase a 2022.

I would test drive a 5.7 V8 Tundra and a Turbo V6 Tundra. Also keep in mind that Toyota doesn’t make the 5.7 V8’s anymore so if that engine wasn’t taken care of you run the risk of being out an engine.

With a new Tundra you can purchase a Toyota Platinum Warranty as long as your within the 3 year or 36,000 mile period.

My 2 cents.

 

That’s just the “going rate” ish, or was for me…36 is a good deal, maybe in Houston they can get more but when I was shopping a low mileage clean one was 44-50 still. Tax and everything it would be less than 10k difference for a new one. I think real world is more like 10 mpg on the high end, which is significant.

you can believe Toyota is making worse stuff cause they are making it more economically, “cheaply,” or you can believe they are making it both cheaper and better. I think it’s cheaper and better.

 

I'm not trying to argue, but it ain't cheaper.

And I didn't say worse, I said unproven. AKA proven = piece of mind.

And please cite your sources for the 10 mpg difference. EPA ratings are around 5 mpg different. Maybe if you compare my lifted 2.5 gen on 35s to a new 3rd Gen SR in completely stock form you could get close to 10 mpg better.

 

I’m curious about something in a V8/ V6 turbo comparison.
When you have higher displacement (ie 5.7 vs 3.5), doesn’t that mean you have more power available at low throttle? Am I wrong to assume that?

 

IMO, the 3.4 TTV6 is an all around better truck.. more responsive, more power, better mileage, better technology, AND better looking. The future is smaller displacement with forced induction power. fighting is like saying email sucks and you should only trust the post office since its old and proven. Then you get into other things that were improved like the 10 speed trans is better than the lazy 6 speed. Also the rear end with coil springs and trailing arms verses leaf springs. Thats just the mechanical. The interior is night and day... I wouldn't want to buy and commit to a truck with outdated interior and technology. The 14 inch screen is pretty creamy