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When does your low gas light come on?

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by Jasons2006Tundra, Nov 16, 2023.

  1. Nov 16, 2023 at 10:21 AM
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    Jasons2006Tundra

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    Went and got gas today just as the light came on, was only able to put in 21.6 gallons. I am supposed to have a 26 gallon tank, right? Is it normal for the light to come on when I still have over 4 gallons left in the tank? I was on level ground.
     
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  2. Nov 16, 2023 at 10:24 AM
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    It doesnt. Very rarely do i let it get to 1/4.
     
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  5. Nov 16, 2023 at 11:25 AM
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  7. Nov 16, 2023 at 11:30 AM
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    Would you prefer the light came on when you had no gas left in the tank?
     
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  8. Nov 16, 2023 at 12:05 PM
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    No but I was surprised to have 4+ gallons remaining. My '04 Taco will only have ~2 gallons left when the light comes on. It's just good to know how much is left and this was the first time I let the tank get that low.
     
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    It could be a variation in the dash light itself since it’s part of a resistive circuit that determines when the light comes on. I don’t know the specifics but I know it’s just not an ordinary bulb.
     
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    Never. I've never gotten that low on gas. What is wrong with you?
     
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  12. Nov 16, 2023 at 4:14 PM
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    You have 6 gallons left when the light is on and the DTE isnt even factoring that. So when the light comes on, look at the DTE and then tell yourself you have 6 gallons left plus whatever mpg you’re averaging.
     
  13. Nov 16, 2023 at 4:20 PM
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  14. Nov 16, 2023 at 6:23 PM
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    We got a low fuel light on our trucks? Sweet! Now i’m going to have to find it
     
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    The gen 1 gauges aren't real great. If I hit my brakes too hard at 1/8 tank, the light will come on.

    The gauges are just a cartoon depiction of what is actually going on.
     
  16. Nov 17, 2023 at 5:06 AM
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    With my 86 CJ, I could make a right hand turn and the light would come on. Make a left hand turn and I could watch the gauge rise.
     
  17. Nov 17, 2023 at 5:11 AM
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    This is what's in your fuel tank. The white sock is the intake. By design, that sock doesn't sit on the bottom of the tank. So given the "footprint" or the area of the bottom of the fuel tank, imagine how much fuel you'd have to add to a bone dry tank in order for it to reach the level of the intake sock. I bet it's a couple of gallons... and even then it's going to be slurping like a straw sucking the last drops from a Big Gulp.

    Also, look where the float is in relation to the intake. When you can see what's in there and how it works, you can appreciate it for what it is: a VERY general estimate of the approximate level of fuel in the tank. With that in mind, you really do want the low fuel light to to err on the conservative side... at least I do.

    EDIT: I just copied an pasted that pic without really looking at it. Looking closer, it appears the sensor with the red wire wound around the rod is for the low fuel light. So that further shows the difference in level between when the low fuel light comes on and where the intake is.

    [​IMG]
     
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  18. Nov 17, 2023 at 5:45 AM
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    shifty`

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    Yeah, and logic on the sensor location, although not all years use that style sensor, some use a slide contact apparently ... lots of other vehicles I've had use a float, which that almost looks like it could be a float but not made of metal?

    I suspect the sensor is near the top of the pump body because the pump supposedly uses the liquid gasoline as a cooling agent for the pump itself to prevent it from running too hot, which again 'supposedly' can lead the pump to premature failure. This is where the "never run your tank below 1/8 (or 1/4)" recommendation came from, if you ever heard that during your lifetime from grandpa or your dad.

    In addition, most tanks have one or more baffles inside, sometimes going so far as to box-in the pump, typically with gaps at the bottom of the baffle, so the pump is always surrounded by gas, Example of that in vid below, note the tank is trisected with three vertical baffles. Any time I've had custom aluminum tanks built for GenIII/GenIV SBC swaps, the two dudes I've used in the past always baffle like this and usually tell me which Walbro pump to use for the application that will jibe with the engine + tank design.

    Pay close attention during the blue liquid test!:

     
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    I haven't seen it in years but also try not to get down near E. I wonder if my light is burn't out. Is that one a regular bulb on the 2000 or something unique?
     
  20. Nov 17, 2023 at 1:35 PM
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    It's "regular" in that it is simply an incandescent bulb and is same one used on any 00-04 Instrument Cluster for fuel

    There are approx 19 Type 74 bulbs but the fuel bulb is slightly different in size and is a A14V3.4W bulb. As been mentioned, the fuel bulb must remain an incandescent since the sender unit uses resistance to determine the brightness of fuel level indication, which is why it fades in and out as one gets close to what Toyota views as getting low on fuel. LED can not be used being it's a diode, either on or off.

    LowFuel Type Q14V3.4W.jpg

    Sender Gauge.jpg
     
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  21. Nov 17, 2023 at 2:48 PM
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    A few weeks ago I had my gauge cluster remove from the dash, searched for the LOW FUEL light with a flashlight pointing at the backside of the board, and i still couldn’t find where it’s supposed to illuminate. So that’s why i figured that the 1st gen truck’s didn’t have one.
     
  22. Nov 17, 2023 at 4:30 PM
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    If related to your 04, like mine it should be just left of your ABS indicator.

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  23. Nov 17, 2023 at 4:49 PM
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    It’s this grey light holder. Is your’s missing?

    IMG_0047.jpg
     
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    I can assure you from experience that the gray socket works in any of those holes just as the black one will work in the fuel light spot. When I removed all of mine to swap bulbs, I did not pay attention to the fact that the gray one came out of the fuel light hole. It’s actually now in my high beam indicator hole. Both fuel light and high beam work.
     
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