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Winter set and tpms

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by Charliebrn, Dec 17, 2020.

  1. Dec 17, 2020 at 2:52 AM
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    I want to have a second set of wheels/tires for winter so I can swap them easily for the season without taking them to a tire shop. I’d have better traction for snow and it’d save my nice wheels for summer without the corrosion of salt. I’ll buy a cheap used set of steel wheels for winter.

    will the truck remember 2 complete sets of wheels/tpms sensors? If not, I’d have to take it to a shop every time I swap sets. Will a tire shop mount tires without sensors? I could live with the light on for a few months every year if I had to, I guess. Just really don’t want to pay a shop to mount and reprogram my tpms twice a year...
     
  2. Dec 17, 2020 at 2:56 AM
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    The truck should* remember up to 10 wheels. Two full sets including spares.


    *It works that way on a 2019, per @ElNopal 's experience.
     
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  3. Dec 17, 2020 at 3:28 AM
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    I have the winter/summer set up on my 2018. I use the stock steel wheels in the winter and new nice ones for summer. I purchased the summer wheels at Discount Tire here in Boise and they change them over for free since they are just "bolt on". My previous tire company did the same. I purchased a second set of TPMS and both sets work just fine. I did purchase new winter tires when I did this.
     
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  4. Dec 19, 2020 at 5:16 PM
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    So, you just swap them when it gets cold? Do you have to do the tpms reset button or anything?

    Thank you! I found a set of Tundra SR wheels for $50 so I just need to put on new sensors and tires and I’ll have a winter set that I’ll keep in my barn until the weather calls for them.
     
  5. Dec 19, 2020 at 5:22 PM
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    For my 2016 I have a ATEQ quickset tool that holds both codes so when I switch over the tires I can switch the codes. Just plug it into the OBDII port and press which set it is, takes a short trip for the ECU to get things straight and the TPMS light goes out.

    https://www.ateq-tpms.com/en-us/products/quickset-light-tpms-reset-tool/

    This way I don't have to go to a tire shop on their schedule, I can do it at home. Just requires you to know the TPMS codes so you can input them into the tool from your computer.
     
  6. Dec 20, 2020 at 4:38 AM
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    So I’m confused... if you need to reprogram the tpms, the truck can only remember 5 tire sensors, not 10. Id either have to buy a couple electronic tools (1 to read sensor ID numbers and another to put them into the computer every time I switch sets) or take it to the tire dealer or tire shop when I do the swap. I was hoping to avoid both scenarios. Might prefer to run with the damned light on then spend that cash.
     
  7. Dec 20, 2020 at 4:49 AM
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    Unless something changed between the 2017 trucks and the 2019 you do NOT have to reprogram with anything but the button on the dash. It's in the owner manual, and @ElNopal has done it. Shoot him a PM or see if he replies here, and he can explain it better.
     
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  8. Dec 20, 2020 at 5:17 AM
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    How did you know the codes for the sensors? Do you have a tool to read them?

    thank you
     
  9. Dec 20, 2020 at 5:50 AM
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    I bought a different tool to read the codes since I had all tires already mounted and in the garage. But the tool I showed can pull the codes from the ECU. So if you buy it before you take off the summer's you pull those from the ECU on the summer setting. Then get the shop to do their thing with the winter tires (you're already going to need mounting and balancing, the extra cost to put them on the truck won't be much), they'll do the programming and those will be in the ECU, then use the tool to pull them from the ECU on the winter setting. Doing this actually skips having to use the computer program for the quickset tool.

    Now if your ECU can remember 10 codes, go that way for sure, no need to spend extra money. I never looked into it and figured it was a simple 5 code section in the ECU.
     
  10. Dec 20, 2020 at 6:31 AM
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    It appears there are some differences in the TPMS systems across the years. My experience is mostly with the 2018-2019 (start of TSS) years and limited with 2020 (TSS and Push Button Start).

    2018-19 will use their own specific sensors as will the 20’s plus WITHOUT push button start. The 20’s WITH push button start use another sensor that is not backwards compatible with the prior years (ask me how I know).

    It would appear that the 2017 and earlier are different as well... In reading the online manual for the 17 and my 19, they both have the same “Initialization Procedure”. However, the “Registering of ID Codes” is ONLY present in my OM. Both were needed to swap in my winter set for the TPMS to work correctly.

    I would venture to say that this is why I have have read that members have “cloned” their OEM TPMS Sensors ID’s into a separate set of tires (winter, summer, etc.). Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but is that what the electronic tool (OBD II and or tech stream) is being used for, to seek out the ID’s off the OEM sensors to then transfer those codes onto a new set of TPMS sensors for the second set of wheels?

    https://www.toyota.com/t3Portal/document/om-s/OM34594U/pdf/OM34594U.pdf



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  11. Dec 21, 2020 at 3:15 AM
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    Why on Gods green earth would they make tps sensors unique for a push to start vehicle??? I mean, if the original sensors interfere with some electronics,nwhybnot change for all variations to stay consistent? Feel for you. Thanks EINOPAL for the research.

    anyhow, looks like I’m gonna need to buy some tools. -sigh- open to suggestions...I’d want to be able to wake them up, read the code as well as put them in the ECU...
     
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  12. Dec 21, 2020 at 5:13 AM
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    I have the winter/summer set up on my 2007. SR5 alloys with winter tires, and BBS Forged PRO wheels with summer tread. I ditched the TPMS ... my air pressure gauge works just fine.
     
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    I don’t know whether my OCD will allow me to have the light on... and besides, the remote start won’t work with a trouble light on.
     
  14. Dec 21, 2020 at 9:13 AM
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    My remote start (aftermarket Compustar) works with TPMS on - if it didn't I'd have a real issue in -40 weather since my TPMS light is almost always on when the weather drops below -30.
     
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    My 2020 with push button start will start just fine with the app with the light on.
     
  16. Dec 21, 2020 at 5:05 PM
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    I have a set of steel wheels with snows on them, no tpms. I can live the little yellow light for 3-4 months. Now I save my good wheels for better weather and no SALT!!!
     
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    jrq..........

    What's this " app " that you refer too.....?? :monocle:
     
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    The Toyota app from the app store. I can see my mileage, gas tank and if the doors are locked. Unlock or lock my doors and start the truck from anywhere. It will let you know if the truck is running as well. It will also tell you where your truck is located.
     
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