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Oil Filter housing Tube with TRD filter

Discussion in '2.5 Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by Sunfish, Jun 14, 2022.

  1. Jun 14, 2022 at 11:09 AM
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    I read through an earlier thread and I saw the pictures and I understand why this tube is used on the stock filter. Please explain to me why you need the tube with the TRD filter. I'm not saying to remove the tube base or spring only the tube itself. I don't see how the tube aligns anything on the TRD. The tube has four small dimples that holds it on the base and comes off fairly easy.
     
  2. Jun 14, 2022 at 11:17 AM
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    Huh? The TRD filter goes in the same place as the regular filter. Has no effect on the drain tube, if that’s what you’re asking. I’ve never used the drain tube. I just lower the housing and filter together and dump it in my oil pan.
     
  3. Jun 14, 2022 at 11:38 AM
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    Not the Bottom Drain the center tube that goes through the filter
     
  4. Jun 14, 2022 at 11:49 AM
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    Not sure at this point.
    If you're talking about the length of the inner tube, then it is so your filter cartridge doesn't collapse in. Hence, when you swap from plastic to aluminum, you also want to swap the inner tubes to ensure that the inner tube reaches the entirety of the cartridge.

    Edit:

    Actually, just saw the TRD oil filter. It looks like the inner of the TRD oil filter already has a perforation for oil flow...
    (https://www.tundras.com/threads/oil-change-with-trd-oil-filter.65125/)

    However, I'm assuming that with the TRD filter, you might not even need the inner tube? Might be wrong though.

    Might just be worthwhile to save the headaches and get the cartridges, change your oil every 5k miles, and enjoy the ride.
     
  5. Jun 14, 2022 at 11:54 AM
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    Too many, but not enough....
    Also be weary of the fact that the metal tube was shorter on the aluminum housing I bought. You would have to put the taller one from the plastic housing on the aluminum one.
     
  6. Jun 14, 2022 at 1:59 PM
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    Ok now I see. I’ve been using the TRD filter with the aluminum housing and longer tube from the stock housing as @MadMaxCanon mentioned. I haven’t had any issues or collapsed filters.
     
  7. Jun 14, 2022 at 3:36 PM
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    The TRD filter has a metal tube in the center. The TRD filter has metal ends with O-rings. I'm using the aluminum housing as well. Why do we need the tube and what is it good for ?
     
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    Too many, but not enough....
    admittedly I dont know about the TRD oil filter, but the metal tube is there to prevent the oil filter from collapsing on itself. Hard for me to imagine what would make an oil filter "TRD" lol.
     
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    I brought my Tundra 5.7 to the local Toyota dealership and they removed the oil suction tube when they changed my oil. About 2000 miles later I got a P0012 code bank #1 and #2. I had to get home and put about 500 miles on it with the check engine light on. Found out the filter hadcollapsed because they removed the tube. Should Ibe concerned about damage to my engine?
     
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    What did your oil pressure gauge show while CEL was on?
     
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    About halfway between 1/4 and 1/2
     
  12. May 19, 2024 at 2:47 AM
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    If the bypass valve base is still there and only the tube itself is missing your fine with a TRD or AMSOIL filter. I've been running mine for years like that. Those OE paper filters are not the greatest for extended service and probably need the tube just to keep it centered but other than that it doesn't do much
     
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    OK. Here is the question that I have for the Toyota folks out there. The dealership finds that their technician messed up and removed the suction tube when changing my oil. I get a P012 code that results from the oil filter collapsing and restricting oil flow. Oil is bypassing the filter as well as being restricted. The head technician finds the problem and replaces the tube and installs a new filter. He adds two quarts of oil and closes the service order. According to Toyota, this code indicates restricted oil flow or oil contamination. (See attached photo of the filter). There is over 2500 miles on this oil change. I asked the technician why he didn’t just drain the remaining six quarts of oil as long as he had everything right in front of him. Judging by the tone of his voice he wasn’t happy that I asked him. I was concerned about the remaining oil. He said he inspected the oil for debris and it was good. Even if everything was fine, why not just change the remaining oil to make up for all the trouble they put me through? Now I’m concerned about the possibility of running contaminated oil so I am going to do an oil change. I have reservations about this dealership. Am I being unreasonable?

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    I for one certainly don't think it was unreasonable to ask for an oil change while it was in there, especially since they screwed up. Did they give you an explanation to why the Tech removed the tube in the first place?
     
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    Well just change the oil then and hope that all those miles with the filter being compressed like that didn't cause any harm to your engine, what else can you do?
     
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    Switch dealerships.
     
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    Toyota makes such dependable vehicles despite the dealerships trying to screw them up. I don’t understand.
     
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    The problem with dealerships is that the lowest Tech on the knowledge totem pole usually ends up doing the oil changes, that's just the way it is, and has always been in my experience. Either find a new dealer or qualified place to have your oil changed, or if you bring it back to the same place, bring up the horrible experience you had and make them double check the Techs work.
     
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    I’m not too certain about the head technician after my experience either.
     
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    Wouldn’t the best way to inspect for debris in the oil be to drain it from the oil pan?
     
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    I wouldn't overthink this, just change the oil, drive it, and hope for the best.
     
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    I would change the oil yourself using a good oil if you are able. Mine has never seen the dealer and their bulk recycled oil.
     
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    Change the oil and filter yourself and go forward..
     

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