3rd Gen Max Highway Driving Range - Hybrid vs. Non Hybrid?

Been “dragging” freight on the Hi-line since 05..

 

I said battery.

Your logic is flawed. 4X2 compared to a 4X4? That extra axle, transfer case is included in that weight your waving around. 18 inch wheels versus 20/22 inch wheels are in that weight. 4X2 has a metal roof, Platinum Hybrid has glass plus all mechanisms to open it , that weight is included. Gas tanks are different sizes........ Could go on forever.

 

I think apples to apples trim and options the same, its around 400 lbs, which I think is the exact amount they raised the GVWR to compensate for the hybrid version to maintain close to the same payload given the other difference in mechanicals,

 

@MTRock

Been at it on the Powder River Division since ‘07 here. Pretty slow right now.

Man the takeover of the MRL looks to be a complete shit show. LOL.

 

The BNSF is a shit show! So naturally..

 

A ton of those guys quit in Laurel, they can’t get shit in or out of the yard right now.

 

Fix it until its broke! The MRL WAS a well oiled machine!

 

Ah, yeah that I have no idea. But I'd assume, all conditions being exactly equal, that the fuel economy will tell you all you need to know between the two. Beyond that, I feel like you're ultimately just comparing fractions of fractions.

All I know is that if I can get 500-600 miles out of a tank, either way, it's way better than the 250-300 miles I'd get out of my 2020 Tacoma.

 

I believe the hybrid adds exactly 475 pounds vs non hybrid

 

So to wrap this up do we concur the hybrid will deliver significantly less range vs. the non- hybrid when driven exclusively at 75-80 mph highway speeds?

 

Probably be about the same within 10-15 miles per tank.

 

Why would just the weight of the battery matter?

 

With very little to no regenerative braking on the highway (not sure if the Tundra hybrid will regen when you let off on the pedal like other hybrids), the gas motor isn't shutting off like it does at stops, plus you aren't using the battery power and electric motors to assist unless going up steep incline, you are just lugging around nearly 500lbs extra for no reason.

 

Too funny. Have you ever driven a hybrid tundra?
Low speed, aka parking lot, it's often on battery only. The last mile to my home is 35MPH limit - yea, battery only. Stop/start - works like a charm. Pulling my boat up the ramp effortlessly.

No regrets buying a hybrid Tundra.

 

Apparently you didn't read the OP. He is asking about if it is worth it for mostly highway driving. Carry on.

 

I did read the OP. As prior posts, once at highway speeds, I see no difference. It's the non highway and load pulling where the hybrid works. No vehicle is 100% highway.

Regardless, my opinion from experience, no regrets on the choice of hybrid.

 

Hybrid haters just can’t understand that when the motor is OFF…….you are getting better mileage.

 

Exactly what I was saying before your reply.

How about people who don't read the thread and jump to a conclusion? Aren't they the worst?

 

Hmm.... what's worse, replying to a thread (post) to correct misinformation or posting the misinformation itself?

 

I would take a hybrid for highway driving anyday. Sure the numbers might say it'll have lower range but give it to the right driver and the range will go up considerably. You get better regen, low speed ev mode, hvac without the engine running. I think having a hybrid would be nice on brakes and gas my only gripe is the inverter rating on the hybrids, no manual regen, and the lost storage. Plenty of owners have reported really great fuel economy and some haven't it all depends on ambient temp, driving habits and if the truck is stock. My tank averages have been above 22 mpg on my non hybrid.

 

I have yet to see 1 Hybrid owner out of the monthly Hybrid VS Non Hybrid posts where the non Hybrid owners bash away ....regrets his purchase. I would buy another tomorrow

 

Sometimes I wonder, but driving from Columbus Ohio to Williamsburg VA on a single tank of fuel and only dropping below 26mpg in the last 30 miles, I don't see the non-hybrid doing that. My sr5 loaner a month ago was able to do 22.5mpg with careful driving, but in the mountains of West Virginia I bet it drops below 20mpg.

 

I’ve seen one comment about HVAC. The hybrid may have better fuel economy and highway range in summer when you have to use AC since it’s powered by the battery.

The weight doesn’t really affect constant speed cruising because F=ma and if your a = 0 then mass has no affect on force. The main force contributing at highway speeds is aerodynamic drag. The weight does affect acceleration though so that is one reason why the EPA highway rating is 1 mpg lower than the gas version.

 

On long roadtrips, my non-hybrid's range is waaaay longer than my wife's bladder, so it's a moot point for me.

It is nice, however, to have more range than 330 miles, like my 2015 Tundra had.

 

i'm in a '22.
The day I bought mine, I drove it from Schaumburg, IL to Carol Stream, IL to Maryville, TN on the same tank. Never been able to get that mileage again, even driving the same route, though.. lol

 

Good points ..I luv my big heavy 3rd gen, just not the big heavy price

 

Back to the topic.

Hybrid highway driving range vs non hybrid...

PS I have owned 5 non truck hybrids, most recently a 21 Sienna before I got an insane Covid offer from Carvana on it.

My point is that if you do mostly highway driving and don't tow, you aren't getting much from the hybrid system. Towing and more in town driving yields lots of regen, and gas shutdown, yes that is where it is an advantage.

From a long term 2023 Tundra Hybrid test at Motor Trend....

Great truck for road tripping but only averaging 17mpg over 30,000 miles.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a43603508/2023-toyota-tundra-hybrid-reliability-maintenance/

 

My 23 Capstone at 6 months and 4k miles has a disappointing 16.4 mpg on the dash. At least half of that is on 4 longer 500 mile trips with cruise set to 74 mph

 

Thank you!

 

what’s the difference on the inverter with hybrid versus non-hybrid?