Another new guy, hello

Welcome from Colorful Colorado! Love that Color, (MGM) Great looking Truck !

 

Thank you, James! The dealer couldn't find a sand color, and Toyota doesn't make a Tundra green, which I really want, so I went to next best color. And it has grown on me. Lotta guys from Colorado here. Interesting

 

TJ, a rifle man from Colorado, very nice to make your acquaintance. Thank you for the nice welcome

 

Welcome from NorCal!

 

Tell you what, filthy, you may live in an insane communist freedom crushing state, but the northern end of California is unbelievably beautiful. We visit about once a year or two and always leave inspired by the amazing landscape.

 

You are spot on, brother. Being an hour from Tahoe does not suck!

 

The Falken WildPeak AT3s on stock OEM steel Tundra wheels. These are the truck's winter wheels.

 

Did you see these? https://www.tundras.com/threads/fs-...-crewmax-sliders-group-buy-closed.7600/page-2

I like them, but the $250 to ship is salty. And by the time I paint/powdercoat, you are looking at $1000.

 

You know, I saw those last week and then couldn't find them again. Thank you for sharing. Last I had seen they were like $850, and now they're down to $400, which I could live with.

 

I assume you mean Type 1, which is just the tube. Type 2 looks pretty ad bass too. It looks like for me, anyway, it is $250 to ship - which seems ridiculous. Add the cost and trouble to paint, it's still getting up there. Maybe I will just have to bite the bullet.

 

I'm still trying to figure this out. $250 can't be the actual shipping cost. $50 would be standard slowpoke ground

 

Ok so I went through the checkout process up to the shipping point, and yes, the shipping is $250. That's because it's going on a big commercial freight truck. They must be doing this for a good reason, because it has to be suppressing their sales. I'd guess the good reason is weight. UPS & USPS & fedex probably all have some weight limit that these steel sliders exceed. One way they could overcome this is simply ship the sliders separately. But I get the impression from the PP website that the owners are kinda "do it my way or not at all," and that's that. $250 is far too high for shipping, and that's that.

 

I did the same thing - nice to see I wasn't the only one doing something wrong. I couldn't even get a shipping option for Type 1 other than "free" pickup - in Indiana! though. Reading up on them a bit, they seem to be a two or three-man operation. Do all the fabricating themselves, and I assume, marketing, shipping, and the website. Which is cool, don't get me wrong, but is probably why the website it a little choppy, and the shipping options are limited (and pricey). I would like to give them the business over a no-face corporation - and these frankly are the sliders I have in mind - but with shipping and painting, I have other things on which I should be blowing $700 - $1000 at the moment.

 

Well said and I agree. The website is real choppy. The product looks right. I'd like to support these guys. But that high shipping is a barrier. It just is.

 

Borgs: response from PP: "They are 102" long and 90lbs each. They cost more to go via UPS individually, we've looked."

 

Good to know. Thanks. For what it is worth, Demello and White-knuckle seem to offer similar products, but are at or above the PP prices.

 

I am just going to wait out this item. At some point there will be a slider in between 90 lbs per side and $250 shipping, on the one hand, and 20 lbs per side wimpy junk, on the other hand. These PP sliders are very nice, highly functional, and probably well beyond what I need, and I do need sliders, but I do not do rock crawling. Trees and stumps are usually what I end up sliding into, with occasional boulders sticking up. Thank you for your help, Borgs!

 

I am going to try to make my own sliders. These products are nice, and the prices are nuts. Heck, even if I just use plain old heavy-gauge black pipe or even just a length of heavy gauge square tubing cut to fit and then bracketed on, I will be ahead of where I am now and it'll cost about $50 plus my time. I am not rock crawling, and I do not need bomb-proof sliders. What an education! One of these shops is eventually going to figure this out and get ahead with a simple and inexpensive solution. So far the real simple solutions, like a single bar or tube bracketed on, are not cheap. They are way over-priced for what they are and what they involve. I will report back as I make progress.

 

I am a terrible welder. Make two sets! I will cover cost and compensate your time nicely, and even pick them up on my way to our cabin... may even throw in a case of Genny Cream Ale also, as a sweetener!

 

I just ask that you don't make mine out of PVC.

 

Borgs I went back and looked at the ICI magnums you bought, and I even considered buying them from you and modifying them to fit my needs. A few passes with an angle grinder and flap disk will round them off, and some black primer and black spray paint will make them look good as new. Those sharp edges and hard angles are for looks, because they are a death trap in the woods, where they would lock me into and up against a tree. Rounded curves or straight edge are the best for having the vehicle slide along the impediment. Those ICI Magnum steps will hold you tight up against whatever it is you slid into. They're 10-gauge steel, which is basically 1/8" thick, which is a good overall thickness, but for reshaping and rounding them there's not a lot of thickness there to remove. I think PVC is the way to go

 

Great minds think alike, man. Must be a PA thing. I also thought about modifying my ICI's when I first pulled them off the truck a month or so ago, then I forgot about it. I will look again tonight to confirm, but I think the actual steps will grind off pretty cleanly. Then you are left with what basically is a flattened Dixon Ticonderoga #2 pencil.

 

Grappling hooks.

 

Grinding off those big steps would be pretty rad. Just rounding off those sharp edges and angles might make them actually perform OK for bouncing off of stuff, without hanging up, and that is what I was suggesting. I think at that point even the cheap $150 nerf bars on ee-bay would still be better.

 

Any guy with that avatar is gonna be my friend. Thank you for that nice welcome, GN!

 

welcome from Texas!

 

Lady, from Texas, driving a pickup...that is all-American wonderful. Thank you for the warm welcome, Angel

 

Very welcome!

 

Thank you for your service!