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Desperate for airbags or something to eliminate rear sag

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by ToyotaTundraguy, Jun 15, 2022.

  1. Jun 15, 2022 at 12:34 PM
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    Truck is terrible sag with trailers or a little weight
     
  2. Jun 15, 2022 at 12:36 PM
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  3. Jun 15, 2022 at 12:39 PM
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    I've heard a few people say this about rear coil springs versus leaf springs. Most all I've heard from in person were not Toyotas though
     
  4. Jun 15, 2022 at 12:44 PM
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    Airbags or stiffer coils are your best options.
     
  5. Jun 15, 2022 at 12:47 PM
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    :eek2: That is extreme. I have not tried air bags but really enjoy my black sumo springs.
     
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    Think there are a few on this forum who have replaced their rear springs with heavier rated ones intended for the 80 Series Land Cruiser... YMMV
     
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  8. Jun 15, 2022 at 12:55 PM
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    That’s the help I’m looking for but cannot seem to find . I’m open for mods just need info
     
  9. Jun 15, 2022 at 12:58 PM
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    Truck can sure pull but suspension designed for groceries
     
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  10. Jun 15, 2022 at 12:59 PM
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    I don’t see a weight distribution hitch. You NEED one of those first!

    Then get your truck weighed. Knowing your axle weights help point you in the right direction.
     
  11. Jun 15, 2022 at 1:01 PM
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    I got one for 8000 pounds that very same day .. helps for sway but want worth its money for sag
     
  12. Jun 15, 2022 at 1:02 PM
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    My 2018 tundra did not sag like that by the way
     
  13. Jun 15, 2022 at 1:03 PM
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    With the same camper?
     
  14. Jun 15, 2022 at 1:04 PM
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    Yes sir
     
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    This truck is twice the towing machine don’t get me wrong but is saging too much . The 10 speed loves towing at hwy speeds
     
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    reach out to @evergreenoffroad I'm pretty sure they've done this swap, or something similar.
     
  17. Jun 15, 2022 at 1:15 PM
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    Thanks fella .
    One last thing … these truck rip like you wouldn’t believe I blew aways an f350 ford Tremor
     
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    What's the tongue weight of your trailer? Are you carrying any cargo in the box? Are you sure you have your weight distribution hitch dialed in right?
     
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    7000 pound trailer . So 700 maybe . 100-150 pounds of gear at best in truck
     
  21. Jun 15, 2022 at 2:16 PM
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    Hitch place installed . And let me know if I try to go to tight there could be damage
     
  22. Jun 15, 2022 at 2:17 PM
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    With a couple of adults in the cab you'd still be within payload limits. I'm thinking tweaking of your weight distribution hitch set up may help you out.
     
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    That sounds reasonable. Can you post a photo of your rig with the weight distribution hitch in use?
     
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    Which weight distribution hitch do you have? If you can, install it, hook up the trailer, and then post pics. Your bars should be parallel to the ground. If not set up properly, you will sag still.

    https://www.etrailer.com/faq-how-to-install-weight-distribution.aspx
     
  25. Jun 15, 2022 at 2:21 PM
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    that suspension does not work with coils
     
  26. Jun 15, 2022 at 2:23 PM
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    I hook up to trailer and Jack that thing right up and install bars then let Jack back off
     
  27. Jun 15, 2022 at 2:25 PM
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    I usually with two people hooking up I can manage to get 4 links on chain .
    It helps but still sagging as is why I want air bags or lifts etc .
    So tight when I turn or get on uneven ground it sounds like piano wire like it’s sick
     
  28. Jun 15, 2022 at 2:30 PM
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    Land cruiser springs or Firestone coil-rite 4164 kit. I'd make sure your weight distribution hitch is properly setup first. My experience with a dealer install was garbage. I had to fix it myself.
     
  29. Jun 15, 2022 at 2:38 PM
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    Those style LDH are not my favorite and not a fan. Personally I would go with a trunnion style LDH.

    https://www.etrailer.com/Weight-Distribution-Hitch/Fastway/FA92-00-1200.html
     
  30. Jun 15, 2022 at 3:11 PM
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    Damn. To be fair my 2.5 gen squatted something fierce with trailer too

     
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