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Disappointed OEM LED

Discussion in '2.5 Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by JimboSlice413, Feb 17, 2024.

  1. Feb 20, 2024 at 5:36 PM
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    Yeah, seems weird you say the LEDs are on par or dimmer. Not calling you out but that's BS. You can also include me in the OEM LED housing area WAY better than the halogens. Yes, they might not be projector style light output, that's why you have the square light in the center, but still way better than halogens, hand down. These light have more of a focal center point than a wide beam spread, that's why they might seem weird to you. OEM halogens don't do this and it more evenly spread out. I also run DD SS3 in yellow and those LEDs have a nice output. It actually drowns out the OEM LEDs. Regardless, I would still stick to OEM over the other aftermarket housing which tend to always have problems or a led bulb in a halogen housing.
    Also, light is always thrown back into a reflector for light. Unless you mean something else.
     
  2. Feb 20, 2024 at 6:03 PM
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    Its not all bad, the light is much nicer. It has that quality white color and I really like that, but I don't feel it illuminated the road in any way that is significantly better. That's just my take and its worth what you paid for it.

    Like someone stated above, I may need to get used to the color. You're right about them having a very centered focal point, that was one of the first things that confused me and made me think something was wrong. But the reflective housing vs projector explains this. I think I was expecting that tight and defined light we see from many LEDs. I didn't realize how these were constructed before buying them. They're staying on either way.
     
  3. Feb 20, 2024 at 6:15 PM
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    I also didn't expect the tight center focal point, especially after owning Acuras with Jewel LEDs, wife currently drives a 23 RDX. It does take some getting use to it. I would say that you get what you pay for isn't warranted here. The Morimotos are double the price with not that big of a difference. You would expect the MM to be 2x times better, they aren't. Not to mention, to me, their quality has gone down. They use to be my go to when ever I did a projector retro-fit. I use to have a 08 Tundra with LS460 Bi-Xenon projectors, talk about light out-put.
     
  4. Feb 20, 2024 at 6:30 PM
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    I don't know much about Morimoto but I do know they're owned by Driven Lighting Group, who owns Headlight Revolution and every brand Headlight Revolution sells on their site. So I'm kind of cautious about their comparisons and reviews
     
  5. Feb 20, 2024 at 6:34 PM
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    Maybe a 2021 is designed differently but my lights are very bright. Not like a spotlight but they’re a big improvement over a halogen setup
     
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    Didn't know all that. I believe they put out a video comparing led bulbs in halogen housings and it was horrible. Light scattered everywhere and poor hotspots. So I don't care for their reviews.
     
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    LEDs only.

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    LEDs and yellow SS3 fogs

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  8. Feb 21, 2024 at 4:05 AM
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    OP: are you sure they are adjusted properly? They almost seem too high in your pics. Try dialing the aim down with the adjuster wheel to the left of your steering wheel as a quick test.
     
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  9. Feb 21, 2024 at 5:32 AM
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    Which LEDs are you running? Your light output looks similar to mine.
     
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    I had a '13 F150 as a work truck, those OEM lights are downright dangerous. I did cheap ACME Bi-Xenon retrofits and they were so much better!
     
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    OEM TRD LEDs and fogs are DD SS3 Sport yellow.
     
  12. Feb 21, 2024 at 9:35 AM
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    Nothing wrong with that light output. I wonder why the OP is having issues?
     
  13. Feb 22, 2024 at 10:23 AM
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    I was in the same boat, light clarity is awesome, low beams are great, but high beams are very focused in the middle of the road. We have deer and elk everywhere on the sides of the roads and on a straight line the high beams don’t have much on the sides. I have tried adjusting them a few times but then the low beams become too low. I installed led fog lights and have them on all the time and they made a big difference.
     
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    If you’re on rural roads with more deer/elk than people some amber ditch lights are amazing for seeing approaching wildlife. Doesn’t show in the video but you can see light reflection in their eyes even when they aren’t standing directly in the light…

    https://youtu.be/9g4SxAWstrI?si=dukTlH0Fuh3LoBBR
     
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    I have been eyeing ditch lights!
     
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    Is this your pic? Why is the DRL light off? That may be your issue…
     
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    I had them off at that moment. At some point, I was load checking the driver and each circuit individually. That may have been when I took this picture.

    After comparing with my coworker's tundra that came factory with led, they do match factory output. Nothing is wrong with the light. It just didn't meet my expectations
     
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    I gave serious thought to upgrading them, but after having issues with

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    - AND the headlights

    ...well, now you know why I'm in a Tundra. :)
     
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    They do look dim. And if you look at his alignment pic in the garage, the beam looks weak. Could be the camera also but my pics are exactly what I see and it's way better than his pictures.
     
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    I recently had an LED go out and replaced them with these LED from Auxito, super bright, plus you don't need a harness, they are completely plug and play unlike the ones I took off.
    https://www.auxito.com/collections/...ited~ml_High Beam and Low Beam - Off-road Use

    Would highly recommend.
     
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    Do you know if these replacements would work as replacements to the halogen bulbs for non led headlights?
     
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    They do, they plug straight in, have an internal resistor and fan/adaptor. Also their customer service is really good.
     
  23. Feb 23, 2024 at 10:09 AM
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    How is the pattern? I tried a set from vLED and they were super bright, but the pattern was not controllable and had random spots of light high enough to blind other drivers. When I spoke with them, they were aware of the challenges with the Tundra and offered a full refund. Nice company, just didn't pan out

    The best plug n play headlight I have personally found is the the Hella 80w off-road halogen. It doesn't have that nice white color but it's way brighter than stock and brighter than these OEM leds
     
  24. Feb 23, 2024 at 10:43 AM
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    I put the OEM LEDs on my '19 SR5 (with the iHacker harness) and while yes they are better than the halogens were I was expecting a lot more out of them. My mom's '18 RAV4 LEDs puts my Tundra ones to shame. I've been considering swapping them out for an HID retrofit instead. I do love the look of the OEM LEDs on the truck though.
     
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    Comparing apples to oranges. Just light a LS460 HID retrofit, which I have had before, will put the Rav4 LEDs to shame, again apples to oranges. And that's from a headlight that's like, 13+ years old. Reflector housing have never been good at projecting light forward, too many prisms to bounce light off of. Projectors have been the best for forward light, only the single bowl to bounce the light off of. Regardless, no one can say that Tundra OEM LEDs are on par or slightly dimmer than OEM halogens, physically impossible.
     
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    I have not noticed stray light, they seem very level and controlled. I would think that has more to do with your headlamp assembly since it reflects off the cone
     
  27. Feb 23, 2024 at 1:33 PM
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    Just self-adjusting ISO on a cellphone. They are identical to a tundra with factory installed LED
     
  28. Feb 23, 2024 at 1:34 PM
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    Slightly off topic. I want to buy a set of reflector headlights off ebay. They have the white white drl strip on the bottom. My 2016 has the drl in the signal lights. How do you run the white DRL when my existing signals are also the DRL?

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    Why is it physically impossible that an led fixture design would have less, or more scattered output, than any given halogen fixture?
     
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    My pictures where take with a Samsung S23 Ultra, stock camera app, 12MP, no zoom. As you can see from my pictures to yours, it's a night and day difference. I dont know what phone you have either. As for your output being the same as a Tundra that came with factory LEDs, then the only conclusion is your phone.
     

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