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Fifth Wheel Hitch Install

Discussion in 'Towing & Hauling' started by Ruggybuggy, Oct 9, 2024.

  1. Jan 12, 2025 at 4:30 PM
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    blenton

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    As I'm sure you well know, one nice thing about a fiver vs conventional tow is the that crosswinds and sway are inherently better mitigated. Not eliminated, but better handled. I've I didn't have a cap and bed slide, I'd get a fifth wheel and look for a gooseneck enclosed.

    I've had bad enough crosswinds with my travel trailer that it moved the whole truck a foot towards opposing traffic, but then pointed the tail of the truck in the same direction, causing the nose to point back out away from traffic. I actually had to steer a little in to traffic to keep going straight. Strangest thing, but it was from bumper pull pushing on the hitch, using the rear axle as a pivot to rotate the nose of the truck back the other direction. So you did a little dance overtime you drove past a small hill that blocked the wind: steer normal, then steer to the right as you get broadsided and the entire truck/trailer combo gets pushed left, then steer left as the nose of the truck rotates around.
     
  2. Jan 12, 2025 at 5:23 PM
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    No doubt fifth wheel definitely tows better but sway is definitely still possible. I have personally had a fifth wheel start swaying behind an f250 diesel with a pin weight of 1800 pounds with just the right amount of wind. I have plenty towing experience as a 22 year truck driver and having towed just about every combination behind a pickup (some more legal and safe than others). That said, I will never suggest a fifth wheel behind a half ton of any breed is a good idea. If you’re comfortable go for it, hope you don’t get into an accident because lawyers will show why it’s a bad idea.
     
  3. Jan 12, 2025 at 5:53 PM
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    I was waiting for the lawyer comment to come up. That’s something that started on FB and just doesn’t happen. Unless you are doing something extremely negligent and kill people, it’s never going to court. There are millions of TT and fifth wheels that are pulled over the truck’s payload numbers and the reality is that it’s just not something police are enforcing unless you are doing something extremely stupid.
     
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  4. Jan 12, 2025 at 6:02 PM
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    Liability is liability. Like I’ve already said you do you. I personally won’t take the chance. Good luck
     
  5. Jan 12, 2025 at 6:18 PM
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    I could have wrote this.

    I tow a very similar 5er with my double cab. I don't know my pin weight, but I know I'm 9k ish trailer weight.

    Good post.
     
  6. Jan 12, 2025 at 6:25 PM
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    I've towed heavy and over limits (short distances), but I've never pulled a big box. After looking online for countless days, wheelbase is never discussed with people's opinions on acceptable v on the brink of too little truck, and I wish it was. I imagine it has more bearing on restricting sway than TV weight/class. Correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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  7. Jan 12, 2025 at 6:29 PM
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    I need to check this hutch out. I need a hitch for my '21 Crewmax. My present hitch in my '08 double cab is a non slider, can this hitch come with slider assemblies?
     
  8. Jan 12, 2025 at 7:18 PM
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    Highest payload and towing in a light duty chassis has historically been a regular cab 8’ box - which is same wheelbase as a RCLB, DCRB, and CMSB tundra.

    In the past, fifth wheels were also designed for 8’ box trucks, so no matter the cab configuration, you had a longer wheelbase than the shortest available wheelbase (even though RCRB trucks are only available on 1/2 tons). That has changed and a 6.5’ bed is pretty standard for a truck, with an 8’ bed being much less popular, so trailers and hitches have been designed to work copacetic like with the shorter box.
     
  9. Jan 12, 2025 at 7:19 PM
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    I don’t believe you can get a slider with this style of fifth wheel hitch. Check their website and reach out to customer support which is very good. You may not need a slider because it can be set up to move the fifth wheel back so you may clear the cab.
     
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  10. Jan 12, 2025 at 7:21 PM
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    I sometimes run with scissors and I’m still here although Covid just about took me out this week.
     
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  11. Jan 12, 2025 at 7:26 PM
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    :rofl::rofl::rofl:

    Sometimes I wish I worked in an office so I could limit my exposure to daily risk.

     

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