Is there a way to stiffen up tundra steering?Compared to my 18 ram feels a lot looser the ram feels

There’s a difference between an alignment and a good alignment. Firestone will just toe and go.

On my 4Runner I could tell the difference between 2* and 3* of caster. That was the difference it took to take away the floaty steering. But sure, let’s say it’s not your alignment.

 

Adding caster can make a drastic difference in straight line stability and could help offset the issue with running 10ply higher psi tires. Tundra are not known to be "floaty". Mine is rock solid.

 

I will try that and as far as alignments go I get one after towing or after driving on crapping road here in dfw area.whats funny is that I took the tundra in for service and the dealership told me I needed an alignment after getting one the week before.

 

This is the picture from Toyota. Firestone said that they we’re just trying to sell me a alignment and that it wasn’t that bad and only off a bit.

 

How come I'm not seeing caster numbers?

Alignment machines can go out of calibration and shops tend to not calibrate often. Can you take it to another Forestone store and have your free alignment done? Just give them the numbers I gave you and tell them to duplicate them exactly.

 

You can take it to any firestone in the country for the life of the vehicle. This was from those things they put on your on you wheels when you pull in to check alignment but it doesn’t actually do alignment.

 

I've seen that scam before. Called an alignment check.

Personally I would take it in to a quality shop with an honest reputation and have the alignment performed.

So why aren't the caster numbers showing from the Toyota printout?

 

That’s a just what they gave me. They do t want you see how bad it actually is. People see red and think they need it. For all I know That could be from another tundra that need alignment like I said I had just had the alignment done a week before

 

I came from fords, some with with eps. The tundra steering is just loose and sloppy even with TRD sway bars.

 

This honest comment is going to piss ppl off

 

If the back of your tundra is lower than the front the steering will be looser . Way noticeable towing.

 

Thats way too high unless its completely loaded and towing

 

For an Lt tire that’s not too far off. Lt tires need more psi than P rated

 

Not really. Unless your using them at their weight rating . Mine have 30 psi in them and the tires are wearing even. 45 psi feels like they are made of concrete.

my tires say max load rating 4080 lbs each at 80psi That would be awful. How could you load a front tundra tire with 4080 lbs?

 

TSS with 285/55/20
Door jamb says 49 psi
Ko2’s

 

As someone who has to drive Ford's a lot at work I highly disagree - I've driven 6 different Ford's in the last 4 months (F150's and 250's, 2015 to 2019) and they're all looser than my Tundra (or my 2010). Ford's I can move the wheel side to side a few inches and not notice a change in direction, do that in my Tundra and I'm swerving all over the road.

 

Yes the truck is a TSS package and came with ko2 so I went with same size tires but better tire. I recently went to 40 front and 43 rear as per nittos suggestion base off year make and model. I don’t know how they get this number but nitto has some sort of calculator.if that doesn’t work I’ll go lower.

 

With the EPS you can change the feel of the steering. My 17 tundra is sloppy comparatively speaking, it is what it is.

 

I've driven a 2013, 2015, 2017's, 2018's, 2019's and have not noticed much of a difference between any Ford or any settings to adjust the steering, they have all been XLT trims (so maybe it's something in higher trims) - but there is a huge difference in going to my Tundra, the opposite of what you're describing. I couldn't imagine driving a truck that was any more responsive - I can use 1 finger and move a few mm's side to side and weave across the lane, move an inch and I'd be off the road if I held it for a few seconds. And it sounds like others are similar since it leads to constant correcting since it's so hard to hold your hand steady for more than a few seconds.

 

I think the OP just wants it stiffer, more meaty. Tundra is responsive no doubt. If you are sitting idling, look out the window at the front tire. Very slight move of the steering wheel is immediately moving the tires. Very tight. IMO, Once you get rolling the steering gets really light. At highway speeds on center planted feel is all but non existent and the steering is super light. 1970 station wagon light.
Maybe OP just needs a heavier heftier feel to the steering wheel and wants to know if that is possible?

 

Actually, that's exactly what I'm describing...I just did a horrific job of it. We're on the same page. My Fords were effortless at 80mph with little correction needed. I feel like I'm constantly correcting and it gets floaty in the Tundra at higher speeds...can be white knuckle-y at times.

 

as someone said, caster isn’t listed here and that is going to have the most affect on this floaty steering feel

 

Funny how people look for such different things. I LOVE how the Tundra drives like that, tiniest little movement from me and it follows, drive a Ford and I'm laughing my head off because I can weave the steering wheel back and forth and it does nothing. Sounds like Ram (like Nissan) though is super heavy steering, it responds more like the Tundra but takes some force - I damn near drove into the cars across the driving lane in the parking lot my first time in a rental Titan because the steering is so heavy, almost felt like the power steering was shot. I didn't notice it in a Ram test drive, but that was only for 15 minutes so was more preoccupied with how the engine felt

 

agree a lot. The tundra just doesn’t track straight at high speeds if you’re Alignment is off

 

go test drive an F150 then get in your Tundra ..
The Ford feels like you are steering a bicycle

 

Maybe I’m just trying to achieve the car like feel from the tundra which is not going to happen.The ram has coil spring suspension and is lower to the ground with highway tires. This could be why it feels tighter but I’ve driven fords before and the feel tighter then a tundra. You would think bigger tires would also make it tighter.

 

Partially Agree. I too drive all manner Ford Work Trucks (2017+) at Work, all have electronic steering.
2wd F150 feels "easy" like a car.
2wd F350 Feels "heavy" and also more effort to turn it than a car/my Tundra.
2wd F450 Feels "heavy" and and more effort to turn it than a car/ my Tundra.
2wd F250 Feels very "heavy" hard to turn and steering doesn't come back to center (but "nothing" is wrong with it the dealer says).
The only one I like driving is the 150, but then I reach for the Air conditioning knob and it's further from the driver than the Tundra Radio knob. I'm not sure how a short armed person could reach it. They all make me miss the morning drive to work in the Tundra. Now I'm curious to drive a new Tundra and see if it feels different than my 07.

Also, why are people getting an alignment every month? Get it where you like it and then leave it alone until you replace tires, replace parts, or notice uneven wear. Too much messing with bolts is probably not a good thing.

 

07 to a 3rd gen shouldn't feel any different in steering - went from my 2010 into my 2016 and only thing I noticed mechanically was the difference in the throttle response.

 

I agree with light steering. I know it’s an old thread but my 2021 1794 model has much lighter steering than my 2006 tundra. Any bump causes my arm to move and the wheel with it. The response is immediate. The old model has nice centering force and no dead zone. Bumps do not make it move. Let’s call it breakout force. Both are tight and respond to inputs but the new one is too light, too prone to outside, unintended inputs. It’s been that way since new.
Anyone come up with alignment settings to increase the heft of the wheel? Or is there a way to change the pump: proportioning valve, cut spring length? Anything.
Thx.

 

Alignment is everything. My truck wants to wander all over the road. It’s never done that before ever. The alignment guy ive been to many times seemed in a poor mood when i was there. Im gonna take it to another shop to double check it