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Leveling 22 Platinum with AVS/Air

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by 2bak, Dec 22, 2021.

  1. Sep 29, 2023 at 4:19 PM
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    I installed the Westcott levers today. I fear I may have let the key rotate when I was trying to put on the bolt. If I have the levers set the same, what is an acceptable variance in height between the sides? If I did let the passenger side rotate, which way do I rotate it to get it to come back down a little?

    HELP!!!
     
  2. Sep 29, 2023 at 5:59 PM
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    Rotate them as much as you want so long as the curved side of pinion lines up with curved side of the bracket. I spun mine a bunch until I realized it. It's tough on the passenger side. Take them off get them lined up and it should even out or be close.
     
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  3. Sep 29, 2023 at 6:07 PM
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    But rotating without the bracket pushed it higher or lower than it should be correct? That's why they warn about letting it rotate when replacing the bracket.

    I have been messing with it and it seems like a full revolution counter clockwise reduces the height by a quarter inch. But I want to confirm that.
     
  4. Sep 29, 2023 at 6:17 PM
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    When I did mine I spun the passenger side bunch without being able to see what was going on. I saw that video too and it freaked me out. There are three flats sides and one curved. The bracket should fit down on it cleanly. I was good once I got mating features aligned. My sides are close. I didn't take them back off and spin one side but it would be interesting to do it you have the time and patience.
     
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  5. Sep 29, 2023 at 6:24 PM
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    I'm pretty sure it does something cause it raised it way up the first time. Way more than their install video has with the brackets maxed out. I could be wrong though.
     
  6. Sep 30, 2023 at 12:03 PM
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    Well I'm not sure. I've messed with it a bit and I thought it was only a half inch difference after it was a 1" difference. Now it seems to be 3/4 to 7/8" difference side to side.

    What's weird is when I adjust one side lever to try and make that side higher, both sides are higher. I can't find the happy medium.
     
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  7. Sep 30, 2023 at 1:35 PM
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    Did you reset the system the way westcott outlines at the end of the video?
     
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  8. Oct 2, 2023 at 11:28 AM
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    2022 Tundra SR5 with rear leveling air bags. I went in and adjusted the arms not all the way down but did not max it out. I left just the smallest gap in the slot and it raised it enough where the daily driving was dramatically improved! So thankful for this free and easy under 5 min fix.
     
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  9. Oct 2, 2023 at 12:01 PM
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    Yes
     
  10. Oct 2, 2023 at 5:03 PM
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    Need some help on the below two. Thanks in advance

    1) I visited my local 4WheelParts store today and asked about leveling/lift kit. They recommended the Readylift 2” lift kit for my 2023 platinum with Avs/air ride. Parts cost is like $440ish but plus installation, alignment, and warranty, the total they quoted me was nearly $1900. Does that sound about right for a 4-5 hr installation job with this kit? I asked about bringing in the Westcott parts and have them install it, they said the installation job cost wise is probably similar to the Readylift, however, they would only be able to put warranty on Readylift since thats what they sell. Should I go with Readylift?

    2) I currently have 295/60/20 (slightly over 34” i think) Ridge Grappler tires on 20 inch Vision wheels. No rubbing. Barely touching the liner when making full turn. The truck looks pretty level to me. See pictures. I did some rough measurement on center of wheel cap to the fender flare. I get DF 21.5”, PF 21.75”, DR 22.5”, and PR 22.75”. Do you think I should spend all that money to get a leveling/lift kit installed?

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    I took the Westcott kit into my local 4WP last week and they said $631 out the door for install.

    They told me the same amount about on the readylift. They are ripping people off for that kit. Another shop here gave me a quote for parts and install around $1,100.
     
  12. Oct 2, 2023 at 5:56 PM
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    thats a lot more reasonable than what i was given
     
  13. Oct 2, 2023 at 6:02 PM
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    They charge $155 an hour for labor. Said 2 hours front install (which I think is double the time), a half hour for rear install, and an hour for alignment. Plus misc parts and lube etc (which again, what?) Plus tax. That's for the Westcott kit. I did the rear on my own but as I mentioned above, I think I let the key turn when tightening the bolt. That was on me because I was not at the best angle under the truck. Had I taken a few minutes to think about it I'd have not made the mistake. I'm waiting on Westcott to get back to me on how to fix.

    In a perfect world, I'd use Westcott front and readylift rear.
     
  14. Oct 2, 2023 at 7:16 PM
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    A slight lift would definitely make it pop a little more.

    As for install, my local 4WD (one man shop) is installing my Westcott's 2" & 1" lift for my 23 Platinum with AVS/Air for $300 on the 16th of this month. Find a local Toyota Clup on Facebook, here, wherever and you will find somebody with a shop that can do the install a lot cheaper. This same shop installed the ICON suspension under my 22 Tacoma and charged $500 for the entire install. Keep shopping!
     
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  15. Oct 2, 2023 at 10:36 PM
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    Not the best pics but here is my 22 platinum with rear air after getting the readylift 2" sst lift, fuel tech wheels and 295/60R20 nitto Recon grapplers. Great ride, biggest change was going from stock tires to E rated. Completely changed the look of the truck.20230915_192111.jpg 20230915_192208.jpg
     
  16. Oct 3, 2023 at 5:21 AM
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    Truck looks really good! I have a crew max Long bed as well and want to get a Leer 100 XL and the small lift set up and your set up is tasteful and perfect. What do you have in the front end for lift?
     
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  17. Oct 3, 2023 at 7:37 AM
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    mind posting pics of the bags and the spacer brackets back there?
     
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    Did you install yourself? Curious about how the rear went. Front looks tedious but straightforward.
     
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    I had a local 4x4 shop install the lift and everything else.

    I will try and get out and take a measurement of the front and get a picture of the rear air bags. They did give me a 1/2 inch extra in the rear.
     
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  20. Oct 5, 2023 at 5:16 PM
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    Just finished my motofab 2” level. It was a pain in the ass , but is okay. No rear lift but considering the westcott arms to get another 1/2” out of the rear IMG_2761.jpg
     
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    Did you increase the factory arms all the way up?
     
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    I can put the tip (just the tip) of a pick through the open end. I should be able to move the arms another 1/4” but I don’t know what that translates to in suspension travel.
     
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    Don't do that...ride is horrendous with more air in the bags
     
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    Help me understand please.
    The wescott rear link for the air ride in the rear is supposed to "reset the system to zero" but lift it and its supposed to be safer for the air bag life and a better ride accoridng to wescott. I have been around mechanics my whole life and installed lifts on all of my toyotas. This rear air system is the first i've owned.
    My questions is if the new arm just repositions the sensor "tricking it" then it still has to pump more air into the bags to increase the ride height which is the same thing as the factory arms? I adjusted my factory arms just a tad (not all the way up) to improve the stock ride and get those bump stops off the axle. It worked wonders and now the truck rides like a dream. I have stock wheels and suspension and am looking for a small 2" lift for the future sometime. But i just dont understand how the wescott arm is doing anything different than the factory except giving you more adjustability which is basically putting more air in the bags. when you adjust the facory arm doesnt that reset the truck to what it thinks is level now?
    Thank you for any words of wisdome and explinations on this part.
     
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    The westcott kit just gives you more adjustment than oem arms. I think they also include "shock extenders" but thats it. It will not give you a better ride outside of not slamming on the bump stops like they do off the lot. If you talk to westcott, they will advise you NOT to max out the arms too.
     
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    The arms from Westcott are keyed different and will pump more air in the bags than the stock arms will. The lift in the back should get you to 24" center of axle to wheel well. They say it is a 7/8" lift.
     
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    Right I understand that, but the way they explain it is that the factory arms by moving all the way up just pump more air in the bags which in turn over a long period can damage the bags by over inflating for a long period of time. vs theirs "reset" the bags to zero while achieving more lift. All its doing it putting even more air into the bags than the factory arms allow, so i would think that theirs would make the ride even more rough and worse over the long run?
     
  28. Oct 6, 2023 at 10:21 AM
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    Correct, only if you go beyond what the oem levers can provide.
     
  29. Oct 6, 2023 at 10:30 AM
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    Yeah even though they max them in the install video lol
     
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    I don't know about the rest of you, but I cannot get my rear heights equal from left to right. Even if I adjust the arm lower on the higher side the sides seem to stay about 1/2" difference.
     
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