[NOW CLOSED] APRIL GROUP BUY - TeraFlex Falcon Sport Tow/Haul 2.25" Leveling Kit - Tundra

https://www.tundras.com/threads/falcon-shocks-are-coming.34355/page-6

Post #175

 

My guess is that he netted about 3 inches of lift from 12 year old suspension that had sagged over the years and blamed the Falcons. He also states the he used the third slot from the bottom and according to the instructions thats 2.25 to 2.5 inches of lift.

 

I thought so too. @Taco-Bender thoughts?

 

I can only speculate but I see two possibilities 1st being that he got an out of spec set of front shock. Things happen.

The other thing could be that his truck appears to be a pre2014 truck but have no clue on mileage. He states he pretty much always has 250 lbs in the bed and he tows a boat.

He bought almost brand new springs so I am going to presume he also bought new top hats so essentially he has 3” of lift compared to fronts that were already sagging a little bit.
These can settle a little bit (take a look at the Dobinson IMS thread some folks are 1-1.5” high right after install). He did not note what his original measurements were specifically other than he just gained 3”.

Same with the rear if his leafs and bushings already a bit soft and with the front being high he puts his boat on and he is extra squatted from where he was before.

The Tow/Haul setting DOES NOT reduce squat completely if much at all. It only adjusts the dampening/firmness of the shock for better driving control.

Again all speculation but that is the only one I have read where someone was high after install.

 

Black - do me a favor when you have a chance. Measure from ground to highest point of cab. Not sure how much difference a 2014 will be from a 2021. Like you, I may install CB +1 as I have them on hand. Thanks.

 

Where'd you take the springs to be powdercoated? Do body shops do that? How much does it usually run?

 

Some Body shops might but check your local metal fabrication shops. My buddy owns a fab shop and does lots of powder coating.

 

I forgot to ask but how much does (if at all) the rear lift after the swap?

 

Technically zero as shocks don’t provide the lift for the rear.
But if your rears are old and worn you may gain a 1/4-1/2” possibly.

 

Thanks for the clarification! It's a 19 w/ 14k miles so probably not.

 

@French Avocado

Put me down for one of these new fangled suspensions.

 

You are #16. PM me with name, email and phone contact.

 

Haha. Tax check came in! j/k

 

Lol, no, just wasn't really sure until I learned I could borrow the spring tool.

Mindset was always set to buy pre-assembled 6112s. So it took a while to change my mind.

 

These look like better kit. I'm excited for you.

 

I have not installed my CB+1s yet.
In my driveway which has a small slope it is right about 77”. If I get a chance tomorrow I’ll take it to the flat spot where I did my original measurements.

 

Now I am paranoid about my garage height. I am going to have to measure when I get home!

 

Thanks! You are on the 3rd perch, right?

 

Correct with 33” tires

 

Yep, that was me.

I really don't know what it was that caused me to get 3" of lift in the front. All I can say is I ended up being a bit nose high, which I didn't like at all. Front lift was exaggerated when I hooked up the boat, which was no bueno. I double checked the assembly of the shocks/springs/perches and everything was the way it was supposed to be. I do run with a cap, rack, awning, and a few other things in the bed, so, figure a couple hundred pounds +/-.

Two different alignments that sucked. Too much positive camber both times and they said that was the best they could do. (probably the shop more than anything else? Two different shops, same company. Second alignment was on them). No aftermarket UCA's.

Anyhow, the springs I used were pretty new (a couple thousand miles) from the Tundra OEM black shocks. Since I was getting them powder coated I ground a small flat spot on the end of the coil to mark the driver side spring so I would know which spring was which. No issue there. Top hats were from the shocks I got the coils from, so only a couple thousand miles there also.

103k on my truck when the fronts were installed the first time, and 108k when I had them set to the next lower perch position. So, I gave it 5k miles to settle out a little after the first install but they pretty much didn't budge.

Truck currently has 114k and the rear leafs are definitely a bit flat.

I just went out and measured from the center of the wheel to the edge of the fender arch. R/R=23 5/8, R/F=23 3/8, L/R= 23 3/4, L/F=23 1/2. No idea what others have measured but interested to hear measurements for a stock gen 2 setup with similar miles.

After dropping the perch one slot everything fell into place. Stance was much better and alignment was a none issue (different shop though). Towing the boat is much better also.

Like I said, I have no idea what the issue was but everything worked out in the end. Hope that helps, although, probably makes things clear as mud.


Edit to add some pics: Not sure if they help though.

First try (perch set on 3rd slot up)



Second try (perch set on 2nd slot up)



Second try (perch set at 2nd slot up). Towing the boat. Roughly 400lbs on the hitch.

 

so which perch did u lock it into that u was happy with? The first or second?

 

Second

 

ok thanks , i think that is what i planning on to leave a little rake

 

@Black do you have any pictures of your truck with the falcons installed? Can you share what setting you are on, and any relevant wheel, tire, and other mod info affects how your truck rides/sits? You've been very informative in this thread, and the Falcon thread, but for the life of me I can't find a pic of how your truck sits. I'm trying to determine what setting I want to use, and if I want to do anything in the rear of the truck.

 

On the FENCE and ready to make the jump- couple???

Really want 3.5” in front 1-2” in rear

1- can I stack 2- coachbuilder shims on top of these shocks with factory coils ??
2- able to use 1-2” toytec schackles in rear ??

 

Sorry. Thought I popped an after install pic over in the other thread. Guess I just did install part pics.
Just the Falcons on the 3rd ring (Leveled) and Readylift sway bar relocation bracket installed currently. My CBs are not installed.
275/60/20 tires so about a 33”x11” very similar to 275/70/18.
Next go round I will certainly go with a more aggressive tire but the in my experience this size tire is the best all around tire size for a general use truck.
Still need an alignment. You can see the front tire tuck in slightly where they make contact with the pavement.

You don’t want to stack anything on the front. The fronts rely on progressive bump stops and ZRT so you will loose nearly all the advantages of those which is what make these ride so nice.
So while you can do it I wouldn’t.

As for the rear you can lift the rear in any fashion you like as long as it is not over 1”.
The rear shocks are only made to accommodate 1” of lift.

This kit is only designed to level the truck. If you want more this is not the kit for you.

 

Wait a minute, so are you saying that I shouldn't use this kit with Coachbuilder +2, or +3 shackles?

 

The CB +2 will likely not be a problem because it is only 1.25” of actual lift.

The CB +3 is 1.75” of lift so I would imagine getting into territory of over extending and bottoming out your shock much more frequently on down travel.
Will it work yes, will you see any major damage probably not as long as you aren’t getting too crazy off road. Is it a risk I would be willing to take with the moderate off-roading I do, absolutely not.

 

UGH! I think I want a little more lift, may have to back out of this group buy. I will wait to talk with Stage 3 when they give me a call.

 

If you are wanting anything more than level this is not the kit for you.
Of course when level any pic on a slope will seem like a lot be it nose up or down.
Here is a picture of a little more level ground and the front looks more accurate in height.