Payload Stickers?

Post# 409 & 449

https://www.tundras.com/threads/payload-stickers.99329/page-14#post-2631189

https://www.tundras.com/threads/payload-stickers.99329/page-15#post-2686307

 

Got it. Thank you. It would be great if someone, more tech savvy than I, would put together a list of all available trims weighed at the catscales, (empty with topped off fluids) and their respective GVWR’s. Then we can all have all the trims actual payload.
I’m thinking I will probably go with an SR5 DC, 6.5 foot bed with minimum bells so I can get the maximum payload. I’m even thinking the smaller of the 2 gas tanks. I’ll just carry a 5 gallon security gas can in the camper’s cargo carrier. I really would love 1800 lbs for how I want to load that donkey for my camping needs.
I wonder if the base SR weighs less. My camper’s GVWR is only 5400lbs, which be close to that when I’m done. So the SR should pull it fine. Any thoughts on that?

 

My 2 cents:

1. Don't get the smaller gas tank if you have the option for the big one. Lots of people on here swear by the larger tank, especially if you are towing.
2. Stick with the SR5 or higher - doesn't the base SR only have the 348hp engine? You don't want that... Get the better engine - you are towing!
3. 5400 GVWR camping is about a hitch weight of say 800 lbs at very most (15% of GVWR), probably closer to 700lbs on most days. I wouldn't worry about the payload game too much because that's a pretty low hitch weight. Get a truck you want with the features you want. 5400 GVWR is a very modest size trailer for the 3rd Gen Tundra.

 

I agree with what TRD-JP said. I think the dry weight of my trailer is about 5400 lbs and my second gen does fine with it in the Rockies.

 

Get the bigger tank, just dont fill it all the way if you’re worried about payload

 

No, the base SR really doesn't weigh any less, so forget that, the base SR5 I weighed in post #409 is virtually what a 4x4 SR weighs.

SR also has drawbacks like reduced engine power, reduced towing (only ~8,300lbs), only comes with the tiny 22gal fuel tank.

I'd recommend you look at an SR5 DC 6.5', a 4x4 model should have ~1,700lbs actual payload before adding accessories, without a spray in liner

-SR detuned Twin-Turbo V6 per build detail sheet: 358 hp @ 5200 rpm, 406 lb.-ft. @ 2000 rpm

 

I have a SR5, 4x4, CM. No TRD, or other options. It’s a great truck. My test drive was to the scale. It weighs 5560 with full tank. GVWR = 7210. Payload = 1650. My Coleman TT has a GVWR of 7600 lbs. Truck tow’s like a dream! I wouldn’t go any larger, and I’m careful with how I load it, but the results have been really impressive!

 

Appreciate the help gents. Ok SR is out. I will definitely go SR5 with a bigger tank, low on the options so it stays a light as possible. I saw a DC in person in Lowe’s a couple days ago. Yeah the back seats are tight but it’s only 2 of us and we basically use the back for storage. I have a tongue weight scale, my tongue weight is only 600 lbs when the trailer is loaded. When I get the truck I will take it to the scales and post results.

 

Good choice on the larger tank. Probably my biggest complaint of this truck (which overall is my favorite truck I've ever owned) is that the stated tank size is 32 gallons. That got me stoked for towing, until I realized it shows empty at 26 gallons. I've read that's due to cooling the pump, not really sure. I just fill up before I get to E. If you do the same you will essentially be using a tow vehicle with a 26 gallon tank. Not nearly as impressive for towing distance. Overall I still love this truck!

 

I'll say the same thing I've said on every page of the 38 gallon thread: if you want to put more fuel in the tank when you fill up, drive farther between fill ups.

 

It won't hurt anything? That's an honest question. I can't figure out why Toyota would show the truck being completely empty when it still has 6 gallons. I would be happy to run another 50-60 miles per tank when towing.

 

Because their computer is very conservative.

 

I have a 2023 sr 2wd small cab. Payload sticker is still lower than the 1940 lbs the manual says it should be. I think they put the low number on every truck. Cause in theory a 2wd non crew cab SR model should be the highest.

 

That would be a great truck to take to the scales. Post numbers when you do please.

 

I have the SR double cab and my payload is only 1500 according to the sticker. Not sure why when it should be closer to the 1940 payload

 

My sticker says the same 1500lbs, the brochure says it is the 1940lbs. Mine had no options and is two wheel drive so it should be the max amount. My guess Toyota just slaps the same door sticker on most of them.

 

@Markysharky @SR4x4DC if you take your bone stock truck to the CAT scale with a full tank of fuel (edit: with you out!) and subtract your scale ticket axle weights from the GVWR printed on your door jamb, that will give you your true payload rating. Lots of ‘22 and ‘23 owners are finding out that they have more payload than what is written on the door jamb.

We’re all very curious since you have the trucks that should have the highest payload (especially the 2wd). Let us know if you go conduct this experiment for your Tundras.com brethren.

 

@Markysharky @SR4x4DC Yes please scale your truck, full tank, minus your body weight or step out of truck.

Easy 1st step is posting a pic of the door jam sticker with your GVWR on it.

I weighed 2 Tundras in post #409 and 449

Toyota plays games with the GVWR, moving it up and down so the payload allowable per GVWR sticker hangs around 1600lbs actual

 

My sticker says 1350 but I weighed the truck and it was 5800 (SR5, 4x4, crew max, 6.5 ft bed) with me in it so I have about 1500 lbs of cargo weight to play with before I hit the GVWR. This is with 1400 lbs of wood pellets in the back and I'm obviously not in the truck which you can subtract 200 lbs for that. So it's 300 lbs below the GVWR and it's sitting pretty darn low in the rear end. They are definitely soft in the rear end even without going over GVWR.

 

Every single Toyota truck is soft in the rear, that is their design methodology.

 

I believe that and as long as a person has realistic expectations of their truck's capacity they'll be good. It's folks who in reality should have a 3/4 ton that expects any 1/2 ton to do what they need it to do that have issues.

 

I have same truck as you, it crossed my mind to flatbed it for hauling, but thinking about adding 2,500 lbs on top of the flabed makes me wonder about supporting the load with coils and then the ride unloaded. Im not worried about the stout frame or the axle housing

 

I just picked up a 23 crewmax 6.5 limited with air suspension, moonroof, tow mirrors. No bedliner. Full tank of gas.
GVWR on the door: 7365.
Monroney Sticker payload: 1390 (minus 22lb per additional sticker).
Scale weight: 5860 (flipping between 5840 and 5860).
“Actual” payload= 7365-5860=1505lb.

 

kinda looks like that pallet is towards the back ?

 

is that based on the door jamb 35 psi or the tire max load psi ?

 

The door sticker

 

I will only be towing a 5500lb camper. However I will be hauling about 1800lb possibly a little more, while towing that camper. Do you think I need a 3/4 ton for that?

 

Given that the 1800 lbs on its own is already more than the payload capacity of the Tundra before you've put anything else in the truck or hitched up the trailer, yes.

 

That 1800lbs does include the 600lb tongue weight. The other 1200lbs is the wife, myself, generator, bicycles and porta-bote gear.