Valhalla’s Shield theft deterrent/skid plates info and ordering post

It ain’t just the 3rd gens. 20 weeks here. Was told Sept 25 my plates were shipping “this week”.

 

Waiting is frustrating, but the plates are worth the wait. Take the opportunity to do all the undercarriage maintenance and projects BEFORE installing your plates. Change fluids in the differentials and transfer case, install transmission cooler, power tailgate lock, exhaust system, etc.

 

It’s now 10/22/22 and my requests on 10/16/22 via email and this thread for order cancellation, have still been unanswered by Tyler. Not only has he not made good on his promises, he has now gone dark on requests to cancel. Which means he has $1,070 of my money, and will have until which time he decides it’s time to refund or PayPal forces his hand.

I know Tyler is well supported in here but it seems that all of his supporters, already have his shields on their truck. His product is awesome but the business model is a disaster on so many levels. Many an awesome person has produced an awesome product, but the business model tanked due to poor management.

So to those who are still waiting on overdue shields, unanswered communications and broken promises, with your hard-earned money buying raw material for everyone in an unmanageably long line in front of you…. Buyer beware.

Next on my to-do list this morning is to submit a request for investigation to the Oregon State Department of Justice Consumer Fraud division.

Best of luck to those who are still waiting.

 

Soooo, did you not read the post he put in after your last one? I quoted yours and his below (it's immediately after your last one in this very thread). He clearly states that FB messenger is the best way to reach him and that emails won't work. Claiming that he has gone dark when he has a response the same day on this forum is disingenuous. I do not have his plates, do not have an order, and do not know him, but trying to swing a big dick around on a forum to bully a well regarded vendor is pretty stupid. Turn off the internet, Karen.

 

I don’t have and won’t have FB. It’s his responsibility to maintain reasonable means of contact.

So in one post you refer to me as “Bully”, “Swing a big dick” and “Karen”, over something that has nothing to do with you? Umm, ok dude.

 

I referred to you as a Karen. The other two were descriptors of your actions. As for having anything to do with me, this is a public forum and you posted a matter that should reasonably be handled privately in the public space. Now you want to object to public commentary? Would you like to speak to my manager?

 

Huh? Did you say something?

 

Ok, so enough bashing. I'll offer constructive criticism, as I do actually understand the frustration.

Rather than making it a hostile ultimatum posted without a tag or a quote I would offer these suggestions.

1. Use the quote button on the last post made by the OP, or whatever relevant post you wish them to reference, or use the @ symbol to tag them like so @Classy63
   • This give them a notification so you post isn't as easily lost in the flood
2. Better yet, send a PM. This keeps things private and also increases the chances it will be seen. It also comes off less as an attempt to damage a business in revenge for a perceived slight, and more as a conversation seeking a solution to a problem.
3. Recognize the situation the business is in. Demand is far outstripping supply, and wanting your stuff now doesn't move you up in the queue. Everybody waits, everybody hates it, but everyone is getting their products... eventually.
4. Don't publicly threaten a business with punitive action. That's a bully tactic and all it will do is make you a lower priority for any business. This is not an accusation, it is a simple analysis of how people react to things. 9 times out of 10 when an ultimatum is given people will go out of their way not to oblige whatever demand is being made.

So, as an example, here is how you could have addressed this publicly and not come off as a Karen.

Hey, @Classy63 I have order number XXXXX with you and I've not gotten a satisfactory response to the longer than expected lead times. I don't have FB so I can't message you there, and I saw that you don't respond to emails, so I am trying here instead. I'd like to request a cancellation of my order and a refund of the item and shipping costs. Could you please try to get me a response at your earliest convenience?
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This does a few things. It explains the issue, it doesn't denigrate the business, and it might spark people to contact the business on your behalf with the preferred messaging platform. This would get you a quicker response from the vendor if somebody was able to convey or link to your post. Instead of attacking the business and threatening with guberment interference, which will make anyone that likes the vendor ignore your plea when they might have been able to help.

 

Where did you find Vahalla shields in the first place?
Was it thru an internet search or did you find him on this forum?

And yes, I do have his shields, and yes, I did wait a few months before I received them.
It was widely known about the delays around here.

 

Most of your suggestions have already been done, and accomplished nothing. So excuses, at this point, are exactly that. My money should have been refunded by now. If he had done that, you wouldn’t be here trying to defend the indefensible.

Wear your keyboard out labeling and flaming me as much as you want. At this point, I don’t care one bit. I just want my money back. Very quick and easy process.

 

Internet. There is a banner at the top of his page that says…

“Due to high demand, wait times can exceed 4 weeks, please be patient“

While technically correct, it would be much more accurate to say “Due to high demand, wait times can exceed 4 months, please be patient”.

Had I known that upfront, I wouldn’t have ordered.

 

@Harvster All I will say is that I wouldn't come on here trying to throw weight around a public forum or being an a$$ because you can get banned. As said by other members, the refund issue should be handled privately. @Classy63 doesn't sit on this forum daily....he's busy making plates. Many of us have waited for our plates because we didn't want sub par products from other sources. I am like a kid at Christmas when I order something and want it as soon as possible, but I, along with several others here, did not mind the wait for these and supporting his efforts. There are millions of Tundras on the road and the vendors that makes these plates can be counted on 1 hand. The point is....the choice is yours on what you purchase, but I would suggest a different approach as to how you handle this within the forum publicly.

 

From personal experience, @Classy63 has been very responsive to PMs. I believe he stated months ago, on this thread, that it’s not effective to ask him about orders on this thread because there are simply too many posts to follow (over 5,000 replies and counting). I’d also consider getting a FB account solely for the purpose of reaching out to him. Tyler’s noted the best way to get ahold of him, FB. You might get your refund faster that way.

 

Gotcha.....I think we were all thinking "don't air dirty laundry" in the thread.

 

Gee whiz guys, thanks for the great info!! Peace out…

 

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

 

Oregon DOJ has zero authority over someone who is operating a business outside of the state of Oregon!

It would be like placing an order for something in Canada (sorry northern border dudes, no offense intended), not getting your product, and then expecting some branch of federal law enforcement to intervene on your behalf… it doesn't work like that!!!

 

Mkay son!

 

Beginning to think Harvster never even ordered the shields.
He/she/it/them/they is just looking for a new place to be a troll..

Anyone with the smallest bit of common sense would know posting in this thread and threatening legal action isn't going to get a refund any faster..
It's been 6 days and he/she/it/them/they still have nothing..

 

Here ya go!!

R318137422

 

I almost feel bad that I’m causing so many people to lose their minds over this.

 

Nobody is losing their minds. We just disagree with how you have chosen to conduct yourself. You only posted to complain. From day one. Your very first post was to complain a week ago, but you've been a member since June. You've made zero effort to be part of the community or contribute. You came here to see what you could get out of it, and when you had to wait you complained. That doesn't get you the benefit of the doubt, it makes people question motives. Combine that with you threatening a well regarded member, and well, what did you expect? Warm hugs and a safe space to have your tantrum? Welcome to reality. We are a community, we support each other, and we care. Of course we circle the wagons for a friend.

 

There is only 1 person losing their mind over this, AKA man in the mirror.
The rest of us don't give a shit.

You sure are spending a lot of time on a forum with the sole reason of crying about your cat shields.
Otherwise, we would have seen the last of you at your last 'peace out'......

At this point, I hope he keeps your money and your shields......

 

Nice rant. Feel better now?

 

Give it a rest and grow up. Act like an adult and have some patience.

 

Talking to yourself now?

If you're going to post here, learn how to quote..
Perhaps participate in more than just your self-pity over your cat order..

 

Can someone with Valhalla shield's skid plate and cat convert installed provide me with some screenshots how to connect them together? i'm going to try to install the skid plate tmr. ordered it back in '21, just getting around to it . thx